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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 08:16 PM
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Ron Kirkland, GOP House Candidate Says 'Gays Were Taken Care Of' When He Served In The Military
Source: Huffington Post

Tennessee Republican congressional candidate Ron Kirkland recently said that when he served in the military during the Vietnam War, gay service members "were taken care of" in ways that he could not begin to describe.

Kirkland's candid remarks came at a Tea Party forum last week when the GOP hopeful criticized the Obama administration's support for overturning the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy.

Conservative House candidate Randy Smith offered a similar reaction to the measure at the event when he declared he "wouldn't want to share a shower with a homosexual."

The Associated Press reports:

Kirkland, a Vietnam veteran, said of his time in the military: "I can tell you if there were any homosexuals in that group, they were taken care of in ways I can't describe to you." Smith, who served in the first Iraqi war, added: "I definitely wouldn't want to share a shower with a homosexual. We took care of that kind of stuff, just like (Kirkland) said."

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/03/ron-kirkland-gop-house-ca_n_561511.html
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 08:18 PM
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1. any particular crimes that Kirkland would like to confess to?

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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 08:20 PM
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2. My thoughts too as I read this... sounded like a guilt confession to me. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 09:09 PM
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 12:49 AM
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26. "Pussy bragging?"
:puke:
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liquid diamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 09:35 PM
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20. I think he is hinting at hurting/killing gays.
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sensate2000 Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 09:55 PM
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21. Figured that out did you?
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liquid diamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 10:08 PM
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44. Yup. Unlike others here.
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 08:25 PM
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3. POS may owe his life to some 'fag' he wouldn't wanna share a shower
with because he's not man enough to be comfortable naked around other men?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 08:31 PM
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4. another donnie mcclurkin fan? nt
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 08:32 PM
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5. He's just mad he didn't get a reach around.
Edited on Mon May-03-10 08:32 PM by Fearless
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John N Morgan Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 08:32 PM
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6. That is simply a lie. Gays lived DT during the Vietnam days, if you didn't admit to it the draft
Edited on Mon May-03-10 08:33 PM by John N Morgan
took you. There were gays in the service. I am an "Era" vet and there was a gay guy in the barracks, and everybody knew it and there was never an incident of any kind. Racial tension had more impact than anything. I know the job of the Basic training DIs was to run everybody into the ground so mercilessly you didn't care who was handing you a canteen.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 08:37 PM
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7. Oh yea, come on, describe the ways schmuck, we're all ears.
Inciting and excusing violence, way to go asshole.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 08:39 PM
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8. So, he's admitting to hate crimes?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 08:54 PM
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12. heck, he is BRAGGING about hate crimes
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 10:43 PM
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23. In fact endorsing them to me. Just what this country needs, more hatred. n/t
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 08:41 PM
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9. Complete and utter bullshit.
A spotter in my unit was gay. He had done a previous tour with an infantry unit, in the field...

Nobody fucked with Larry.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 09:13 PM
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16. Nobody fucked with Larry.
Edited on Mon May-03-10 09:13 PM by AlbertCat
I'll bet Larry wasn't limp wristed and didn't chasse to the shower wearing a boa. So y'see, he wasn't really gay, right?

But those scrawny sissy boys better watch out!









What morans these two macho guys are! :eyes:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 09:23 PM
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17. Well..
Edited on Mon May-03-10 09:24 PM by cliffordu
Nobody fucked with Larry because he wouldn't tolerate it, and neither would his friends.

Like me.

So take your little hate and pack it.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:13 PM
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24. you took Albert's post wrong
he's on our side
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 01:09 AM
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29. My humble apologies...
You are the best, skittles.

:patriot:
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 08:41 PM
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10. They should be investigated for any crimes
that they may have committed.

The military has no excuse to let this slide
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 08:54 PM
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11. real men don't talk like that
real men don't have to
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 09:24 PM
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18. the truth!!!
amen. thank you Skittles... wonderful point. +1,000,000 to your comment!


They behave NOTHING like the Christ they almost definitely would lay claim to following if we asked.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 09:34 PM
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19. my boyfriend brags about gay guys hitting on him
"BOTH SEXES FIND ME ATTRACTIVE!" - now that is a real man response :D
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 02:58 AM
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32. ooh la la! he sounds dreamy because of his proper response & his manliness. congrats to you two in
your happiness together.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 03:27 AM
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33. I think that's the gist of it
when a man's masculinity is threatened by the sexuality of another man - or anyone really, just how masculine are they? Real men - both heterosexual and gay guys - aren't threatened in that way - no INDEED
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 12:56 AM
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27. These guys are gasbag turds, whether they are atheist turds, Jewish turds, Muslim turds or
Edited on Tue May-04-10 01:14 AM by No Elephants
or pretend Christian turds.

IMO, swapping out one stereotype and set of assumptions for another is not necessary.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 12:59 AM
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28. "Real men," as opposed to what?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 05:14 AM
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35. as opposed to men who are so easily threatened
homophobes, misogynists and yes, heterophobes if they exist
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SocialistLez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 09:02 PM
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13. I read that yesterday in the Tennessean
It made my blood boil.

They're basically saying it's okay to physically harm gay people.

I can understand pandering to your base and saying you won't repeal DADT but by talking about gay men being physically harmed like it's A-okay...not cool.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 09:04 PM
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14. Almost 50 years ago...
Edited on Mon May-03-10 09:13 PM by rpannier
I guess in his world nothing ever changes

And after making his comments, Kirkland grabbed his quill pen and scrolls. Blew out the candle he had on his wooden desk. Grabbed his whip. Climbed on his horse with the help of his slaves and rode away fearing an assault from the Spartans was imminent.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 01:32 AM
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31. Homophobes identify with ancient Greek troops?
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 05:01 AM
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34. Fear of Spartans nt
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 10:03 PM
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22. Tickle Fight!
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Rincewind Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:16 PM
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25. I'm sure
that he "took care" of them. Probably invited them to share his bunk, and then denied that he ever knew them. I've never served in the armed forces, but everyone I've talked to, or, heard about, has said that when you are under fire, the only thing that you care about, is if you can count on your team mates to cover your ass, and help fight.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 01:30 AM
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30. Knuckledraggers, it's not about showering, only about lying.
Gays are NOW in military lawfully, including in military showers. Troops of all genders are already lawfully showering with gays, as long as the gays remain willing to lie. That is what DADT meant and continues to mean So, these objections about showering with gays are about 20 years too late.

The only issue now is whether the law will continue to require gays in the military to lie, to bear false witness against themselves.

When you state the issue accurately, no argument against repeal of DADT makes any kind of sense, even to a homophobe. Think about it. Then again, homophobes don't think on this issue; they simply react.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:25 AM
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41. Fascinating that what seems to need to be protected in military . . .
Edited on Tue May-04-10 11:27 AM by defendandprotect
is the reality that homosexuals exist!!

Evidently hetereos are too fragile to deal with nature -- too fragile to be

able to acknowledge two men loving one another -- and too fragile to even hear

about those possibilities!!!

Conclusion: Hetereos are fragile!!

. . . but also evidently the most brutally trained and cruel militaries we've ever raised!!!

Torture is easy -- killing is easy --

It's just homosexuality which frightens them!!


:evilgrin:


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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 07:07 AM
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36. How many gay people did Kirkland murder while he was in the military? n/t
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 08:25 AM
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37. So when is he coming out? nt
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retired af major Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 09:37 AM
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38. The braying of a homophobe ...
When I was in the Air Force, I'd heard of only one instance when someone said they'd been physical with a gay. However it was a man stating that he and some friends sexually assaulted a female while they were stationed in Germany because she wouldn't date any of them, so their stupid logic was obviously she was a lesbian.

I don't know how true that 25 year old story was but I was so offended I reported the prison worker when he wasn't wearing a military uniform as a senior NCO military policeman to the office of special investigations. Freakin prick.

Worked with gays. Showered with gays. Secure with your sexuality = no big deal.

Kirtland and Smith probably "took care of that kind of stuff" when they were alone in the rack at night. LOL

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 09:48 AM
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39. Traitor. I served with gays. They were just soldiers, nothing more, nothing less.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:23 AM
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40. This will appeal to the many ignorant rightwing voters who will applaud it!!
Meanwhile, these are obviously two individuals who do harm in their outlook wherever they are --

and certainly don't belong in Congress!!

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:29 AM
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42. This also makes clear that all oppression is kept in place with violence and
intimidation --

whether women, or homosexuals, or African-Americans -- or Mexicans --

any minority experiences this violence.

Otherwise, the oppression wouldn't exist --

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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 05:55 PM
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43. Let's check Kirkland's unit records for suspicious deaths.
Either he's being a macho braggart, in which case he's an asshole, or he's obliquely confessing to committing hate crimes, in which case he needs to be investigated and prosecuted. Hey, Kirkland -- there's no statute of limitations on murder, you hatemongering little shit.
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