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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:34 PM
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Brown wants citizenship revoked for terror ties
Source: Boston Globe

WASHINGTON — Senator Scott Brown responded to the attempted Times Square bombing yesterday by cosponsoring a bill that would allow the United States to strip Americans of citizenship if the government determines that an individual supported or joined a terrorist group.

But a host of scholars and fellow lawmakers, including the House Republican leader, Representative John Boehner of Ohio, immediately questioned the constitutionality of the proposal, saying it was at odds with a half-century of Supreme Court precedents that ruled that citizenship can be relinquished only voluntarily. The legislation would affect US citizens whether they are native-born or naturalized.

Some said the Terrorist Expatriation Act was worded so broadly that those who write checks to groups on the State Department’s list of terrorist organizations could be at risk of losing citizenship.

The bill, cosponsored with Senator Joseph Lieberman, the Connecticut independent, is the highest-profile legislation that Brown has backed. The measure, which quickly attracted considerable national controversy, amounts to a strong political statement; after spending months saying he was focused on nuts-and-bolts issues such as jobs, the Massachusetts Republican ventured yesterday into hot-button debates over immigration, counterterrorism tactics, and the extent of federal power.


Read more: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2010/05/07/brown_wants_citizenship_revoked_for_terror_ties/



I understand the logic of the right wing crowd. The terrorists hate us for our freedom. Therefore, if we throw away our freedoms, except for the right to carry guns of course, then the terrorists will stop hating us, right?

Also, why stop there? Why not dispose of citizenship and miranda for child molesters and rapists? Do the Republicans somehow support child molesters and rapists? What about Bernie Madoff? Does reading Miranda to Madoff and letting him keep his citizenship once again show the Wall Street bias of the GOP?

:sarcasm:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:36 PM
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1. Oh I couldn't agree more
Edited on Fri May-07-10 09:27 PM by bluestateguy
And if his proposal is extended to include white collar corporate supercriminals, then I may support this.

The thought of Bernie Madoff and Jeff Skilling in an underground dungeon with no rights is just too hard to resist.
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Po_d Mainiac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:46 PM
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4. What no boiling oil?
You Liberals have no stomach for justice :sarcasm: :hi:
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:38 PM
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2. Tell him it's a slippery slope.
Dumb politicians who don't much like the Constitution may be next.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:50 PM
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5. Or, loyalty oath to GOP required for all, to keep citizenship nt
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:46 PM
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3. Yeah? Well, who DON'T the pukes want to take rights away from?
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:01 PM
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8. Themselves
for they are the only true Americans
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:53 PM
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6. Simple
Just grant the person a Moon or Martian citizenship.

Oh. Maybe the Moonians or Martians might object?
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:56 PM
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7. I thought they wanted less government??
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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:44 PM
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9. Figures Senator Centerfold would get behind this
I expect he's never actually READ the Constitution ... too many "big" words for the poor guy.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:58 PM
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10. Congress has already passed laws to revoke citizenship
The ways to lose citizenship are detailed in 8 USC 1481. Terrorism is arguably already covered in this Code.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:33 PM
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13. Too slow, you would have to Mirandize him, and that's the point...
Everyone got into a tizzy because the attempted bomber was read his Miranda rights. I think the Republicans want the rights to terminate upon arrest. I don't think the proposed bill goes that far, but listen to the expressions of outrage that an American citizen was read his Miranda rights.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:54 PM
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11. will Congressman Peter King lose his citizenship? He supports the I.R.A.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:56 PM
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12. Wouldn't that include Ollie North?
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:40 PM
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14. Why does Scott Brown support US Citizenship for child molesters?
This guy supports child molesters?
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 06:27 AM
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15. Start with Scott Roeder
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 07:43 AM
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16. Brown, Brown. . . doesn't sound like a
Waumpanaug name to me.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 05:45 PM
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17. Good, start with him. nt
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