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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 08:35 PM
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Hawaii can now shun Obama birthers’ requests
Source: MSNBC

updated 7 minutes ago

HONOLULU - It's now law in Hawaii that the government can ignore repetitive requests for President Barack Obama's birth certificate.

Republican Gov. Linda Lingle signed into law Wednesday a bill allowing state government agencies not to respond to follow-up requests for information if they determine that the subsequent request is duplicative or substantially similar to a previous request.

The law is aimed at so-called "birthers," who claim Obama is ineligible to be president. They contend he was born outside the United States...

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37120542/from/ET



HAH.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 08:37 PM
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1. These people are too stupid to dial a phone. How do they do it twice?
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2QT2BSTR8 Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 08:57 PM
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2. A republican signed off on this? SHOCKER!
Edited on Wed May-12-10 08:57 PM by 2QT2BSTR8
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 08:59 PM
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3. It's costing a financially troubled state a LOT of money to appease these birthers. n/t
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 09:00 PM
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4. Just part of the Libruhl Meedya's plot to hide the truth
They've even brainwashed Republicans now.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 09:12 PM
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5. This may be a dumb question, but what right does a person have asking for another person's
Birth Certificate?
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 09:14 PM
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6. Unless you're a close relative, no right at all...
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proudohioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 09:19 PM
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7. Not dumb.....
I wondered the same thing.

I'm into genealogy, and shit, depending on the particular state, it's like pulling teeth to get a copy of a birth certificate from a deceased relative. I always have to send a photocopy of my ID, and usually have to state how I am related to that person.

Jeesh!
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 10:00 PM
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11. I had to send a photo ID for my own father's birth certificate.
You obviously know about the privacy laws, but for any DUers who haven't performed genealogical research, the Privacy laws vary from state to state, and it can take quite a while to gain access to a vital record, even the record of a blood relative.

I feel really sorry for the state employees in Hawaii who have had to put up with these creepy cranks who bother them for Obama's birth certificate.
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proudohioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 10:16 PM
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15. I feel sorry for those poor employees too!
Those 'birthers' are a real piece of work, huh!

:crazy:
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 10:00 PM
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12. None. This is how identity theft is prevented, in part.
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proudohioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 09:20 PM
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8. Good! That 'birther' movement was the most ridiculous thing! nt.
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 09:44 PM
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9. Just the same, I strongly encourage....
....future presidential candidates to hang on to their original birth certificate.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 10:02 PM
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13. the original is never given out. It stays on file with the state. The parents
can get all the CERTIFIED COPIES they want, but they can't take possession of the original.
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 10:02 PM
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14. lol!!
Doesn't the local health department automatically hold all originals? I know I never got a birth certificate when my son was born - we had to go to the health dept to get a copy. Or are we talking about something else here?
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 09:50 PM
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10. Obama? That socialist?!! Serves him right!!
The very fact that people are calling our Wall-Street capitulating president a socialist and suggesting that his well-established birth is somehow in question just goes to show you how bat-shit insane this country has become. Of course, these crackpots would go nowhere if it weren't for their Big Media megaphone. We are sooo screwed.
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The Damned Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 10:19 PM
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16. K & FUCKING R!
Back in your hole, Orly!
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 11:38 PM
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17. Good! But it would, perhaps, have been even better...
if the law permitted those state employees to respond to those ridiculous requests the way they'd REALLY like to!
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:48 AM
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18. Hawaii Law Shuns Obama Birth Document Requests
Source: NPR

Hawaii Law Shuns Obama Birth Document Requests

by The Associated Press


It's now law in Hawaii that the state government can ignore repetitive requests for President Barack Obama's birth certificate.

Republican Gov. Linda Lingle signed into law Wednesday a bill allowing state government agencies not to respond to follow-up requests for information if they determine that the subsequent request is duplicative or substantially similar to a previous request.

The law is aimed at so-called "birthers," who claim Obama is ineligible to be president. They contend the Democratic president was born outside the United States, and therefore doesn't meet a constitutional requirement for being president.

Lingle didn't elaborate on her reasons for signing the bill, but state Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino previously issued statements saying that she's seen vital records that prove Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen.

Read more: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126788307&ps=cprs
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:48 AM
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19. This is like Christmas to the Birthers - more government conspiracy and cover-up
:tinfoilhat:
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:48 AM
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20. what's sad is that they had to make a law about it. it's quite obvious that if there were
somehow video to surface showing obama being born in a hawaiian hospital they would think it was doctored. it's fucking ridiculous! how pissed would these idiots get if i refused to accept their birth certificate as proof they were born here and are not really from somewhere else!! they'd be irate.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:48 AM
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21. It's all a big conspiracy!
Obama was born elsewhere, and his parents made sure to put a birth announcement in the newspapers in Hawaii just in case he grew up and became President. :eyes:

I don't see them asking for information on Ann Coulter, who very obviously is from another planet.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:48 AM
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25. And getting bigger all the time
If shrinking a conspiracy to a small cadre of secretive insiders doesn't keep the theory alive, expanding the conspiracy always works.

It's the same no matter whether you are talking about President Obama's birth certificate, or elections stolen by "hacked" voting machines. True believers will always believe.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:48 AM
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26. So true ~ the birth announcement proved it for me

I recently found the birth announcement for my Mom , born in 1918.
We are African American and it was in the local paper circulated for us.

I found it in the new Pro Quest website that can be accessed in some Libraries and can be accessed online for $'s. I love Pro Quest.

It made me cry happy tears.....

"Nannie and Thomas Johnson are rejoicing as they welcome a beautiful daughter weighing 8 lbs., born at 4 am on August 9th "

There is no way that his family wanted to fake Obama's Announcement in the local newspaper. Too many people would know the truth and have it corrected at the time.

I'd like to see some of the Birther's Birth Certificates but Mars doesn't supply them. LOL
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:48 AM
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22. I know a birther. Nothing will change their minds....
They have heard the word on foxnews and it is cemented in their brains. Weak minds are easy to fill with garbage.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:48 AM
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23. Conspiracy theorists deal with this easily
By adding the state government of Hawaii to the list of conspirators.

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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:48 AM
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24. his mother was american - he is american - end of story n/t
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:48 AM
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28. And he was born in America.
Although I have heard birthers argue that Hawaii isn't a state.
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:48 AM
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27. ahhhh I love the smell of TEABIRTHERS in the morning
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:48 AM
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29. K and R for the teabaggers and freepers to see
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:48 AM
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30. now there's some shit about his SSN indicates it being issued
to someone born in Connecticut ... there's private investigators and everything!

:tinfoilhat:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:51 AM
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31. Did they really need to pass a law for that?
...allowing state government agencies not to respond to follow-up requests for information if they determine that the subsequent request is duplicative or substantially similar to a previous request.

That sounds pretty reasonable all by itself.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:51 AM
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32. Does this law apply to other government information requests beyond birthers
I'd hate to think that if someone somewhere requested something from a government that my request could be ignored.

Hopefully, this is just focused on asinine birther requests.
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