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wpsedgwick (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 09:15 AM Original message |
Philips unveils LED light bulb to replace standard 60-watt |
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Pab Sungenis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
1. How does this compare to CFL? |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 09:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. They're expensive now but... |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 09:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I think the key is the on/off cycles |
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HillbillyBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:15 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. There are a lot of 'offbrand' CFLs that do not last |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 08:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
39. I have a mix, and they all last about a year max |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:25 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. My problem with incandescent (in addition to the elec cost) |
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FailureToCommunicate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Be careful though...the heat in a CFL is in the base too. I had one smolder before shorting out and |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. Try drilling some holes in the fixture's top to let the heat escape. n/t |
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HillbillyBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. If you put holes in the can you risk letting AC out in summer and |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:06 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Point is the cooler they run, the longer they'll last. |
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Pab Sungenis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. I'll back that up |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
29. Interesting - I've only had two CFLs burn out on me over 4-5 years now |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 09:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Philips is the most aggresive of the big three lighting makers |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. It costs 10 times as much, to start...how many miles do I need to drive to be able to AFFORD one? |
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HillbillyBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. I bought an 11 watt LED Flood indoor/outdoor |
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SlipperySlope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. CFLs suck and LEDs don't |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
2. If it lasts 25 times longer, the price will be |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
5. Excellent. |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #5 |
19. We had the same problem with our under cabinet lights. |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. I have some of this in our upstairs bathroom |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Neat. That may work for a cove light in a tray ceiling I'm building. |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 08:06 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. it's 3200k -- so warm white |
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Gunit_Sangh (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
7. price |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
26. You think thhat's bad? |
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Lochloosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
9. I have been seeing these in commercial applications. Some things to love about these lamps. |
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FBI_Un_Sub (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
12. A "full featured" LED |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Search on "definity". n/t |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
14. K&R |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:39 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. CFLs were expensive at first. |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. I noticed a big change in my power bill! |
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fatbuckel (518 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
15. see this link for more LED options |
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bikebloke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
17. I went to LED 3 for my bike light. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Stay tuned. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
21. I'm using a 1.5w light in my computer room. I bounce it off the ceiling and |
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Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
22. Any chance we'll ever make cool things like this in the USA, with USA companies and USA employees? |
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HillbillyBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. Cree is a company in Durham NC that is leading research |
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SoapBox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
28. Toxic? Like the CFL? |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. No toxics in LED lights |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Hmmm. An LED is a semiconductor, so there's probably nontrivial hazardous waste |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
31. Good because CFLs leave a lot to be desired..... |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
34. We started using CFL's over eight years ago when they first came to the |
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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
41. I hope they are better than the current CFL bulbs |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
42. Utility energy efficiency programs need to incentivize these. |
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