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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 05:07 PM
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Pelosi vows to end ‘Don’t ask, don't tell’ by the end of the year
Source: The Hill

The Pentagon’s “Don’t ask, don’t tell” policy will be nothing but a memory by year’s end, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) declared Wednesday.

Pelosi, in an interview with The Hill, stopped short of laying all of her strategic cards on the table. She wouldn’t say whether the House will take the lead on the issue or predict when the Clinton administration-era tenet would be repealed.

But she made it clear ending “Don’t ask, don’t tell” is at the top of her agenda.

“I don’t have any doubt that ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’ will be a memory by the end of this year,” she said.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/98833-vow-to-end-dont-ask-by-new-year
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 05:08 PM
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1. Man, I hope she proves me wrong.
I doubt that this will be gone by 2011.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 05:15 PM
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2. Yep, my first thought was, "we've heard this before," and I full of skepticism.
Edited on Thu May-20-10 05:16 PM by Better Today
But hey, I, like you, would love to be proven wrong.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 06:24 PM
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5. Hey, they closed the detention center in Guantanamo in a year...
oh, never mind.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 05:18 PM
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3. Nancy is tough...if anyone can do it, she can.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 06:17 PM
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4. obama could end it today...but he is not that kind of man nt
Edited on Thu May-20-10 06:18 PM by msongs
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 07:39 PM
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8. No, Obama can NOT permanently end it - Congress MUST VOTE to repeal it. n/t
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 07:47 PM
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9. He could end the firings until the law is passed - sounds like the prudent thing to me
after all these are civil and human rights were talking about.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:04 PM
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12. That's not Obama's call, either
By *law*, the SecDef currently determines who is fired.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/10/654.html
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 10:54 PM
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13. He can make the order to him, please...
The rest is BS. He is commander in chief of the armed forces.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:14 AM
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14. Did you mis-spell "dictator in chief"? eom
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 05:46 AM
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16. I don't believe the armed forces is a democratic organization.
If the commander in chief orders that these people not be dismissed, is that some violation of democracy? And is it particularly important, given the nature of the armed forces? He could determine that dismissing them is a threat to national security and the integrity of the armed forces.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 09:57 AM
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24. Good point. And, as boppers well knows, Congress expressly empowered the President to
suspend discharges. See 10 U.S.C. 12305. Not that the CIC needs Congress's permission to either suspend discharges-- or to declare that being gay and in the military is not a detriment to the military.


There must be at least ten ways around DADT discharges. And, IMO, no one knows that better than Obama. It's about re-election--his and that of Congresscritters, not law or tradition.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 09:48 AM
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23. Right. Because a Dem President never simply lets a Dem Congress know what he wants
Edited on Fri May-21-10 09:52 AM by No Elephants
or sends them a draft bill. Give me a break.

Obama's done that any number of times, on things like outlawing drug re-importation, not breaking up too big to fail companies, etc. And probably many more times that we know nothing about. And Congress has complied, willingly and often swiftly. And, more likely than not, Congress has been complying with the WH on this issue as well, including as to timing.

Besides, he's not been shy about Executive Orders, nor, as both CIC and Chief Exec., should he be in this case.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 09:44 AM
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21. *wink, wink*
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 09:45 AM
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22. Often asserted,and wrong every time.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 06:42 PM
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6. Go left, go left again and stay there.
Do so for at least the next 8 years, maybe then we'll recognize our country again.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 07:34 PM
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7. End of the year? Right after mid-term elections? Time to make sure the GLBT vote is lined up.
Take your time, Nance. No rush. It's only real people whose careers arebeing ruined and whose lives continue to be damaged by laws that say they are less than human, like DADT and DOMA.

How much damage has been done since Clinton got elected and failed to fulfill his campaign promises to the GLBT community?

How much damage has been done since you took over in 2006?

How much since January 2009?
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 09:19 AM
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18. That is exactly what I thought when I saw this story yesterday.
If it happens, great, but I'll take action based upon results, not promises. So, only partially optimistic here.
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harry_pothead Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 07:54 PM
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10. And I vow to stop procrastinating sometime this year.
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 07:59 PM
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11. She's the Democratic leader I trust most: more power to her. n/t
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 03:14 AM
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15. It's amazing how far she's come
During chimpy's reign I wanted her gone, she seemed to cave on every important issue. But she's been absolutely great on everything since Obama came in, and I hope she remains speaker for a long time.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 09:16 AM
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17. But she can't say when, so don't ask her.
sorry, couldn't resist.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 09:21 AM
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19. Lame duck session after the November elections
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 09:42 AM
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20. Haven't seen you in LBN in a while. Nice to see you.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 06:39 PM
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25. Well she also "promised" a public option" Even if she trys, it isn't up to her.
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