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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 07:40 AM Original message |
White House looking into Gaza clash |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. MODS! Please do not move this story per Rule 7 of LBN posting guidelines. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 07:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. +1 |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 07:46 AM Original message |
Seconded |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
84. thanks anigbrowl. n/t |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 08:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
16. +1 |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
90. Thank heavens for Rule 7! Arbitrary...well, not so arbitrary, censorship sucks. n/t |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
112. +1 Mods, please don't move this one to the dungeon. |
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MindandSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
122. + 1! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
124. +1000% -- |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #124 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #131 |
137. Yes -- another dungeon that should be rethought . . . . |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #131 |
160. To be fair, I was here before the I/P Forum was created. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #160 |
163. I usually try to stay out of I/P threads and I agree. |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
135. +1 |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 06:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
239. +1 nt |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 07:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
240. 1 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
4. It will be interesting to see the US response... |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 07:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. One ship was apparently flying the US flag. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 07:57 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. If you hear anything about what's happened to that ship, would you mind letting me know? |
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sasquuatch55 (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 09:22 AM Response to Reply #5 |
33. And some wonder why Iran desires to protect itself. I'm sure what Israel does.... |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 09:36 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. If I were in charge in Iran, I would have my scientists working overtime |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:32 AM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Nuclear weapons are useless. No one will use them and their impact is limited |
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Mike K (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #50 |
180. That mistaken belief is predicated on |
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cosmicone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 12:16 AM Response to Reply #180 |
230. Iran doesn't have a jihadist mentality |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
224. So you'd also agree that Israel should be nuclear-free? |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #39 |
57. What's the point? |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 08:59 AM Response to Reply #57 |
243. The point I was trying to make |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #39 |
86. Israel is moving three nuclear-armed subs to Iran |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:33 AM Response to Reply #39 |
87. It's already been decided that nuclear power within such a short distance means that |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:46 AM Response to Reply #87 |
93. There is video of US forces riding into the base of a nuclear explosion |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #87 |
125. Agree . . . nuclear insanity . . .but hawks control our futures, evidently -- !!! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 08:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. uk conservative govt already demanded an end to the Gaza blockade |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 09:26 AM Response to Reply #4 |
34. Turkey is a part of NATO. It might as well have been a US-flagged ship. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 09:36 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. That's a good point. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:16 AM Response to Reply #38 |
47. It was also known internationally and widely published that this was a goodwill ship with food and |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #47 |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #68 |
73. Complete bullshit. The US does not have nuclear weapons |
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WileEcoyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #47 |
83. So they say, ya trust anyone in this game? |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #83 |
165. How about the Turkish Prime Minister? Shall we trust him? |
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WileEcoyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #165 |
175. to a word? No. |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #175 |
181. Why not? |
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WileEcoyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 05:55 PM Response to Reply #181 |
212. In a room full of gangsters, murderers and pickpockets? |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 06:16 PM Response to Reply #212 |
216. I'd have to argue otherwise |
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WileEcoyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 06:29 PM Response to Reply #216 |
221. Maybe the roles are reversed. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #175 |
247. Well, that's what racism gets you, I suppose. |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
6. The count is up to 19 dead now, and scores injured. eom |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
8. Netanyahu gives "full backing" for military actions in flotilla raid; scheduled to meet with Obama.. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 08:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Yeah, i rather doubt he's welcome in DC right now. |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 08:27 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. a neocon is a neocon |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 08:37 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. I can't possibly imagine that Obama could welcome him now. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 09:40 AM Response to Reply #11 |
41. No, the right wingers in Washington would welcome him with open arms. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:04 AM Response to Reply #8 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #8 |
69. Netanyhu should be in jail with Bush/Cheney . . . and anyone who supports this evil deed -- !! |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #69 |
134. +1000% n/t |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #134 |
139. YES!!!! |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
10. Regularly updated timeline of events from the BBC |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
12. Irish government concern for citizens on Gaza aid ship |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:11 AM Response to Reply #12 |
70. Peace activists . . . dangerous time for those who want peace . . .!! |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #70 |
95. Most people do seem to hate peace and peacemakers - |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #95 |
116. Agree . . . . |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #116 |
198. You're right - those same elites use the media to make it SEEM |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 08:32 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Lieberman, ""the flotilla is an attempt at violent propaganda against Israel" |
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activa8tr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 09:02 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. he's dangerous and an horse's ass, too! |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
171. I wonder if he's distantly related to Traitor Joe Loserman. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 08:33 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. off topic |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:52 AM Response to Reply #18 |
61. That is a crock. We have been financing and fighting proxy wars for these assholes. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. you can discuss that in I/P |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
14. livestream |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
19. "leading to 10 deaths" |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #19 |
40. KILLING 10- 20 PEOPLE. Actually, MURDERING. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:30 AM Response to Reply #40 |
49. YES, IT IS TERRORISM OF THE HIGHEST ORDER. |
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Mosby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
109. Have you seen the video from the IDF? |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #109 |
114. yes...and i can also see it has been edited |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #109 |
117. Wow! ... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #109 |
130. The people threw chairs at pirates? |
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Mosby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #130 |
136. And beaten with metal pipes and stabbed. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #136 |
138. Oddly the rest of the world isn't buying your bullshit. |
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Mosby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #138 |
143. No, your just blinded by ideology. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #143 |
157. meh |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #143 |
178. Wow... Projection really is a cruel mistress. |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #138 |
151. This really get me when you are accused of being anti-semitic |
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Bettie (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #136 |
145. So, they should have just sat and quietly waited to get shot |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #136 |
146. Almost every news report has stated that they were |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 09:27 AM Response to Reply #136 |
244. Self defense? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #109 |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #109 |
172. The crew were defending themselves from IDF THUGS. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 05:09 PM Response to Reply #172 |
203. By trying to kill them. This would get an armed response by any one from local PD to |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
21. Responses from Turkey, Ireland, Germany, Sweden, France, Russia, Greece (+more) here: |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 08:53 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. and the UN |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 08:57 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I expect it's likely the UN and EU will convene sometime soon over this. n/t |
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Tripmann (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 09:07 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Correct |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 09:18 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Wow, just 3 hours from now, too! That's some quick, right there. (LINK) |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #32 |
63. Woah. That is definitely unusual, and a very bad sign for Israel. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:34 AM Response to Reply #63 |
88. At the very least, you wait for the flotilla to enter your waters. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #63 |
115. I had to duck away for the last half hour or so to get breakfast prepared for... |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #63 |
173. agreed...this is pretty brazen even by IDF standards... |
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Mike K (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #63 |
201. Stupidity? |
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MindandSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
121. I sure hope we will soon read a stern condemnation of Israel from the US as well! |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
153. Thanks for posting these, Poll_Blind! |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
22. IDF Piracy! |
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activa8tr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 09:03 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. That is what is amounts to! Yes! n/t |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
27. probably all the W.H. will do is look and discuss |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 09:10 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Well, they may have just canceled Netanyahu's visit (see below). |
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sasquuatch55 (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 09:33 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Perhaps afraid; but definitely part of the US, UK, Israeli Imperialist agenda to gain control |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
29. PM to cut short Canada visit, return to Israel |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
140. What has Canada's response been ...and ours for that matter? eom |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
31. So, does this mean we will launch a few Tomohawks into israels commando training base? |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
37. god in heaven, look at the LIST of people on that ship |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 09:49 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. It's an impressive list. Any word on who was killed and injured? |
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RedstDem (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
42. International waters?! |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:06 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Murder, piracy in international waters. ACT NOW against this ROGUE STATE. |
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sasquuatch55 (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:41 AM Response to Reply #45 |
56. We too are a rogue state. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 01:28 PM Response to Reply #56 |
141. + 1 million..anyone remember us killing innocent people at weddings?eom |
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SnakeEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
148. I've heard it was at 40nm |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
46. Sorry, Israel, there is NO EXCUSE for attacking unarmed ships |
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BREMPRO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
48. this makes me sick- and there can be NO justification for the actions of the Israeli's in killing |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:33 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. If someone disarmed a soldier and fired his weapon at him, that would do it. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:35 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. What was that soldier doing on a ship in international waters in the first place? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. The same the coast guard is doing in international waters intercepting boats |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #54 |
142. and keeping media out of the Gulf! eom |
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MindandSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #54 |
149. These were not "coast guards" they were "commandos!" |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #149 |
182. Whats the difference? The USCG uses helicopters and zip lines |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:39 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Yes, let us hope that there is good documentation. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. That video will be vital at establishing the truth. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #58 |
80. And if it doesn't fit your preferred version of events, what then? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #80 |
91. That is how we board vessels. Aggressive would be attacking boarders |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #91 |
103. So if a U.S. ship was near (not in) Iranian waters |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. Like the british soldiers taken there? No shots fired. |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #80 |
104. Oh, but don't you know? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. Waiting for video from Israeli side. |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #108 |
147. Oh! I'm sure they will come up with something.... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 05:12 PM Response to Reply #147 |
205. This video would be it. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #108 |
166. Israel has ships armed with nukes in the waters surrounding |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #166 |
185. I assume most of you guys have no concept of the real world beyond |
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mrdmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 12:27 AM Response to Reply #185 |
231. I do not understand how things work! Please enlighten me... n/t |
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cosmicone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 12:43 AM Response to Reply #185 |
233. You typed a lot about USCG but there IS a difference... |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:32 AM Original message |
But if the only video forthcoming is what's out there now, it doesn't look good for Israel. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
92. If the video shows one person attacking with a knife, axe, or gun |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #92 |
169. Why would it change things? If you are attacked by armed |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #169 |
189. Sure they did, its their coast and these guys planned to land there. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 06:13 PM Response to Reply #189 |
214. You seriously have some confused ideas about all this. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 06:15 PM Response to Reply #214 |
215. Israel controls the airspace and waters. A naval blockade. |
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cosmicone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 12:45 AM Response to Reply #215 |
234. Israel DOES NOT control it LEGALLY any more than |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 08:40 PM Response to Reply #92 |
227. One person attacking justifies how many dead? |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
127. I've seen you make this claim on another thread. Could you please provide a link referencing this? |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:53 PM Response to Reply #127 |
194. What claim? About China? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #55 |
129. I hope so too. |
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BREMPRO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #51 |
81. the israeli's should not have been there in the first place- NO justification. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
167. Then he wouldn't be a soldier, but a pirate. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #167 |
187. So by this logic the US Coast Guard are pirates beyond 24 miles? |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:41 PM Response to Reply #187 |
188. The USCG gets permission to board vessels in international waters... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #188 |
190. If you refuse you can not enter us waters or they will board anyway |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #190 |
192. They were boarded before entering Israeli or Gazan waters. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #192 |
193. SO the USCG are the pirates of the Caribbean then. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:53 PM Response to Reply #193 |
195. Under which country is your boat registered? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #195 |
197. They attempt. If they get no contact they board anyway. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #197 |
200. Alright, you clearly have your own version of reality and it's worthless debating it. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #200 |
202. Were done, pull the video. THey were beaten with pipes on boarding. The USCG would fire |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 08:41 AM Response to Reply #202 |
241. Deleted message |
Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #187 |
248. I don't give a toss about the USCG; we're talking about Israel. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
53. As a level set, the USCG intercepts vessels out to 200NM and boards them |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #53 |
59. You are incorrect. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Incorrect. The USCG or Navy |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #62 |
119. That is 100% false. Wars start that way. |
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SnakeEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #119 |
150. He wasn't talking about international waters.. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #150 |
152. Because the Gaza flotilla was raided in international waters? |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #150 |
155. untrue |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:30 PM Response to Reply #150 |
164. But this incident WAS in international waters. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #164 |
196. Irrelevant. The ship declared intent to enter territorial waters. They dont have to wait |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #53 |
64. do they open fire on a peace convoy with no weapons even before they board it? |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #53 |
77. You are absolutely wrong. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #77 |
94. The US boards out to 200NM. Refusal to allow boarding is met with |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #94 |
176. I believe that the 200 mile zone you are referring to is the Exclusive Economic Zone |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #176 |
186. We (the USCG) also board vessels beyond 24 miles |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
60. VIDEO from one of the ships under attack by sea and air even after white flag is raised - yikes |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
66. Deleted message |
Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:18 AM Response to Reply #66 |
75. The NSA released lots of info on that 40 year old event. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
67. Israel is out of control...nt |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
71. President Obama, cut ties to this nation of brutal thugs, NOW |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
72. A shame that Israeli apologists are waging such a giant unrecommend war |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:33 PM Response to Reply #72 |
183. We outnumber them. |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
74. Is our uncritical support of Israel in our best interest? |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. No! It's getting to the point where we can be friends with Israel or the rest of the world. |
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Cartoonist (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
78. My predictions |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:34 AM Response to Reply #78 |
89. You are correct. n/t |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #78 |
102. Exactly n/t |
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mikita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #78 |
168. sadly, can't disagree -- wish I could n/t |
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mwfolsom (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 07:12 PM Response to Reply #78 |
225. simply brilliant! |
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Althaia (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
79. Clarifying Israel's expectations and early US response |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
82. Why does the US regret these deaths? Why are we responsible? |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #82 |
96. Oh, I gather our support of Israel is so strong that we take responsibility for Israel's actions. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Our support of Israel also involves supplying them a lot of weaponry. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #99 |
120. Ah, yes, follow the money. Is Israel more important than the money or... |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #82 |
107. Gee if Only DU'ers had posted threads about this outside the Dungeon! |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #107 |
118. Yes, and we do need a better method, like a dungeon notification system. |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #82 |
184. It's just diplomatic double-talk |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 06:16 PM Response to Reply #184 |
218. It's the word regret that makes it interesting diplomatic double-talk. |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #218 |
226. Either that |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
85. The White House doesn't have to look too far to find the problem... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #85 |
101. wtf??? Emanuel is pretty much despised in Israel and |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:26 PM Response to Reply #101 |
162. I thought he had two passports. I'll see if I can find the link... |
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yellowwood (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
97. Write to President Obama and your congresspersons |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
98. Oh, thank goodness, the White House is looking into it |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
100. Kicked and recommended. |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
105. Kick And Rec the Only Acceptable Place For DU to discuss this Double Plus Bad Incident |
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FightingBobsghost (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
110. US Government actions |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
111. So armed commandoes slaughtering unarmed aid activists gets called a "clash" now. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:12 PM Response to Reply #111 |
156. +1 |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #111 |
204. Dont swallow the line too. Video shows armed guys attacking |
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Deadgnome (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #204 |
213. But what would prompt a |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 06:16 PM Response to Reply #213 |
217. Running a naval blockade. Like the Soviet aid ships to cuba.. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 06:43 PM Response to Reply #204 |
250. Not credible. |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
113. kick and recommend!! VERY IMPORTANT!!! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
123. Deleted message |
varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
126. This is a very important piece of news - I hope the thread will stay right here |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
128. WH will use Mr MaGoo Glasses for this looking into operation |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
133. LIVE emergency UN Security Council meeting right NOW (LINK) |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
144. Israel will do anything to maintain its apartheid blockade of the Palestinian ghetto... |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
154. If Israel takes aggressive action, it's a-okay. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
158. Al-Jazeera: Aid ship was fired upon AFTER raising white flag. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #158 |
159. Al-Jazeera's live coverage page: |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
161. International waters? THE BASTARDS!!! |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
170. Israel has become a terrorist state. |
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orbitalman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
174. I think I am beginning to 'deeply' regret Israel... |
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The abyss (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
177. I would hope the White House would look long and hard at this. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 12:31 AM Response to Reply #177 |
232. They looked. They're done. It's the activists fault |
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Soylent Brice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
179. . |
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Barackbaby (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
191. Link to video of boarding |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #191 |
199. That activists Peace pipe hurts. That alone would meet the ROE for USCG to fire on crew. |
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Barackbaby (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #199 |
206. not sure as of yet |
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Deadgnome (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 05:50 PM Response to Reply #206 |
211. Yup, |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 06:19 PM Response to Reply #211 |
220. Depends on whose interests you support. I tend to view events |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 05:33 PM Response to Reply #191 |
207. CBS led with this video. FYI . (NT) |
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Barackbaby (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #207 |
208. thanks |
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
209. K&R - we need to place sanctions on Israel immediately. |
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Deadgnome (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
210. I've read elsewhere |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #210 |
219. Blah. It was a stunt and the other vessels cooperated. These guys wanted a brawl |
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Tripmann (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 06:29 PM Response to Reply #219 |
222. Swinging a pipe at somebody armed with an assault rifle commiting a crime |
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Barackbaby (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 06:49 PM Response to Reply #222 |
223. assault rifles? |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:40 PM Response to Reply #222 |
229. Armed with a |
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cosmicone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 01:03 AM Response to Reply #229 |
236. Yeah. 20 people died of paintball injuries n/t |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 04:15 AM Response to Reply #219 |
237. You can't see the bigger picture can you? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 08:45 AM Response to Reply #219 |
242. Deleted message |
Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #219 |
246. So now you're saying that the Turkish ship WANTED to be boarded? |
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Alamuti Lotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
235. Rumour has it that the last surviving members of the Warren Commission has been convened |
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waronbanks (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 05:50 AM Response to Original message |
238. This may do it... |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
245. yeah right. hahahaha. and Im the queen of england. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
249. So immediatedly cut all aid for the terrorist state, Israel, right now. |
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