Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Coleman Takes On Kerry (Party Turncoat Decries "Flip-Flopping")

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:05 PM
Original message
Coleman Takes On Kerry (Party Turncoat Decries "Flip-Flopping")
Push Bush. Bury Kerry.

That's pretty much the assignment for Sen. Norm Coleman, R-Minn., who has been busy working the phones on the president's behalf for the past month.

Hoping to help President Bush win a second term, Coleman has been telling reporters around the nation that Sen. John Kerry, the presumed Democratic presidential nominee, is a flip-flopper who's weak on defense.

<snip>

"It does seem like pretty shaky ground for a person like Senator Coleman to stand on, when he's had to change so many positions when he changed his political party," said Bill Burton, spokesman for the Kerry campaign.


Norm Coleman = pwned :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:08 PM
Response to Original message
1. pfffft....


What's next?

Zell Miller criticizing Jim Jeffords for not acting like a "real" Republican?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:10 PM
Response to Original message
2. What a riot!
Pot, meet Kettle.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:11 PM
Response to Original message
3. Coleman is a Bushevik Whore, pure and simple
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 01:11 PM by tom_paine
This is like Molotov verbally attacking Trotsky, and just as credible.

Fuck you Norm, you Brownshirt!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #3
25. Uh, yea,...BUT
,...if nothing is done to counter this guy, it would be kinda like ignoring that your kids are being stalked by a child molester. These "Bushevik Whores" will track down every vulnerable, less knowledgeable, and "scared to death" individual and abuse their loyalty and trust. We really have to commit to being the protectors against these predators against our people. Doncha' think?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:14 PM
Response to Original message
4. to paraphrase the guy investigating Tom Delay
"being called a flip flopper by Coleman is like being called ugly by a frog."(apologies to frogs)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:20 PM
Response to Original message
5. On what planet has Mr. Coleman spent the last two weeks?
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 01:30 PM by rocknation
The "flip-flopper" strategy is as gone as the marcarena. And the 9/11 hearings has disposed of Bush's "strength" on defense very handily. Coleman must be paying too much attention to the NCAA tournament.

:headbang:
rocknation
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:22 PM
Response to Original message
6. ahahahahaha
what a fucking fool.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 02:02 PM
Response to Original message
7. Do the folks in Minnesota like Norm Coleman?
How did this creep ever ever ever get elected in a democratic state?

There is Minnesota poster here that refuses to answer my questions about this turd Coleman.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Luvpurp Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. Wellstone's plane crashed
two weeks before the election Paul was something like 6-8 points ahead of Coleman and then disaster struck. One of the reasons I truly hate Republicans is how they turned our grief over Paul against us.

I have lived in Minn for 12 years and I have seen the state rapidly decline from a progressive state to a right-wing, Mississippi wannabe run by "Suburban-gelicals". These people are truly scary, they run around in hummers from suburb to suburb, toting guns and constantly preaching to us how Jesus hates poor people and only the rich shall know the kingdom of heaven. Pawlenty, Sviggum, Kiffmeyer, Kennedy et al. are all part of the Suburban-gelical cabal.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 02:38 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. Thank you for the feed
Paul Wellstone is sorely missed, 'eh?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 09:25 PM
Response to Reply #9
22. Remember, Pawlenty was elected with only 44%
in a 3 way race. He gave up the senate race after Rove strong armed him out of it because Bushco wanted Normie.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 10:25 PM
Response to Reply #9
27. BBV could have been a factor as well
according to the Vanity Fair article I read about BBV, (with our very own Bev Harris interviewed by the way) the Minnesota senate race was one of the several that was listed as sketchy at best. GREAT article by the way. It's titled 'How Unsecure Are this Election's Voting Machines?' by Michael Shnayerson in the April issue.

I was living in Minnesota during that race...a sad SAD time. I thought it was weird how defensive Coleman was when a reporter asked if he "owed" his win to the Bush administration and he gave some snide remark about how they owe him, not the other way around (I can't remember it verbatim, but it was oddly catty). Now if BBV WAS a factor, I guess Coleman's defensiveness makes a little more sense.

And what's the deal with his wife? She never looked like she even liked her husband very much...not that I blame her.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 10:41 PM
Response to Reply #9
29. Add Jeff Johnson to the list (I think)
Only yesterday we saw a hummer and we speculated that hummer drivers are probably not Democrats.

The sad thing is that, apparently, Pawlenty is popular what with his drugs from Canada, etc.

Of course, many homeowners are now getting both their 2004 property tax bills and the projected value of their homes for 2005 and many jaws are dropping. Localities have to get funds from someplace, and if not from the state - thanks to Pat Anderson Awada, oh forgot, she dumped her Arab husband when it became politically expedient - then it has to be from homeowners, and senior citizens be damned.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
markdd Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 02:18 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. Out state MN see him as a wise guy socalist
They also see any Democrat as a communist. Norm came in 3rd best vs. Jesse Ventura and Skip Humphrey (HHH's son) in '98. Absent one plane crash and Norm's an out of work mayor begging dubya for a job.

Formerly from MN
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. Is Coleman's term 4 or 6 years?
Thanks for the input Mark.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 09:18 PM
Response to Reply #13
20. 6 years
He was elected to a full term. It's important to point out that when he ran for governor and when he ran for the senate, he failed to win a single precinct in St. Paul (where he had been mayor) including his own.

He's a weasel.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:49 PM
Response to Reply #7
34. I hate that son of a bitch
With the absentee ballots for Senator Wellstone and the votes for Senator Mondale, COLEMAN LOST.

Those who voted absentee for Senator Wellstone basically had their votes nullified, which I feel violates their civil rights. My husband and I tried to introduce a resolution at our precinct caucus calling for a full investigation into the plane crash and why the election wasn't delayed to incorporate new absentee ballots. But 'Minnesota nice' still prevails in the DFL, and it was voted down, as everybody (except us) said 'gee, they wouldn't do that' and 'let's move on, and get over it.' Wusses.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 02:08 PM
Response to Original message
8. It's funny that Chuck Hagel and John McCain, two lifelong Repubs, disagree
with the "weak on defense charge".

Our friend Norm is also the biggest flip-flopper in history.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:28 PM
Response to Reply #8
33. yes, it's chickenhawks who attack kerry as weak on defense,
the combat veteran republicans like mccain and hagel defend kerry.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Supormom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 02:24 PM
Response to Original message
11. Two promises Coleman made while candidate:
1. That he would vote against drilling for oil in Alaska wildlife refuge
2. That he would vote for extending the assualt weapons ban

He "flip-flopped" on both issues.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #11
18. Coleman voted against drilling
I bow to no one in my disgust for Coleman. But whatever his rhetorical flip flops, he still voted no.

http://www.greenaction.org/powerplants/press/sfgate032003.shtml
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:01 PM
Response to Original message
14. Can't stand Coleman
Your Demonfighter is in MN. When Wellstone got whacked this Whistleass follower signed a deal with the devil. Cheney and Shrub were grooming him beforehand and made another Repug step down. Coleman was hated from before when he was elected as a Dem. and slyly pulled off his sheep clothing and became a proud repug. I think his wife dumped him. You could see the terror on both of their faces when he was installed over Wellstone.
They had the gall to turn the Wellstone memorial event against Mondale who only had a week to take Wellstone's place. If only Paul was still here, ole whistleass would be getting an earful. Paul Wellstone was truly one of a kind in the mold of JFK and now we will never know what life would've been like with him around.
I still don't see that MN is changed to rightwingers. I think it is part of the national scam to make Bush look like the chosen one. :freak:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TakebackAmerica Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:10 PM
Response to Original message
15. Coleman had Wellstone killed.
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 04:11 PM by TakebackAmerica
That A hole willl rot in hell.

Hopefully, Franken will run in 2008.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #15
21. As much as I hate Coleman
I honestly don't believe he had anything to do with Wellstone's death. (I do, however, believe it was a Bush/Rove operation.) I've never seen anyone look much greener than he did the day Wellstone died, not out of grief, but because I think his lizard brain was telling him this was no accident. I don't think the weasel had figured out what kind of sharks he was swimming with until Wellstone died and he was scared.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bubba_fett Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:11 PM
Response to Original message
16. Worst human being
Voted by Pulse of the Twin Cities.

Scroll down to the end.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #16
30. That's a riot. Thanks n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
loftycity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:46 PM
Response to Original message
17. Everyone has to know that when Wellstone was killed it was total
Mayhem in Minnesota. Coleman and the Repukes took full advantage of our grief and they had a plan, we did not. With his wife and daughther going with with him. Left us with nothing.
The DFL really tried to get this going and it was very confusing.
That's the only reason he got in. The Repukes have plenty on Coleman and he has to do exactly what they say.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. Why Coleman beat Mondale
...in three quick talking points.

1) Neither the state DFL nor the DNC had ever seriously groomed a successor for Wellstone, who, despite great personal popularity, stood outside the increasingly corporate Democratic party. It's safe to see neither body wanted another Wellstone.

2) Mondale was perceived as old, tired, and vulnerable--an eminence gris past his prime, which, let us not forget, never had been very compelling anyway. Brave of him to take on that horrible task; foolish of the party to have to turn to him.

3) Minnesota is far from being the liberal state of old, due to the shifting demographic brought about by a quarter century of dramatic growth. Wellstone was already in the race of his life--against a robotic midget like Coleman!--when tragedy struck.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
usscole Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #19
24. All good points but
Mondale still would have won but for the memorial service. Mondale had the sympathy vote rug pulled out from under his feet.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 09:32 PM
Response to Original message
23. Wellstone received ZERO support from the Dem Party.
He fought the bush* machine on his own.

While bush* and Cheney and other republican fat cats were regulaly hosting many fund raisers and rallies in Minnesota, not one of the Democratic Party bigwigs came to Minnesota to support Wellstone for this crucial race.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #23
31. Wasn't Ted Kennedy appearing with Wellstone
the morning of his death? In fact, I think that Paul invited Ted to fly to the Iron Range with him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 09:39 PM
Response to Original message
26. Mondale was well liked. It's a mystery that the guy with a backbone
of pudding could win. After affects of 9-11? BBV?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 10:29 PM
Response to Reply #26
28. Well, there was the matter of the absentee ballots
The secretary of state (Republicanite) ruled that absentee ballots for Coleman would count but that absentee ballots for Wellstone could not count for Mondale. Absentees would have to cast new ballots by 8PM on Election Day, which most couldn't do because they were, well, absent.

I was living in Oregon at the time, and my mother and stepfather were visiting. They were mighty upset when they learned about this, since they had sent in ballots for Wellstone before leaving for Portland.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:17 PM
Response to Original message
32. I can't believe that Dayton voted for the "fetal rights", law..
I really don't know what to make of him..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon May 20th 2024, 06:56 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC