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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:22 PM
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Cheney trades barbs with Kerry on taxes
Cheney trades barbs with Kerry on taxes
Michael Janofsky NYT Wednesday, March 31, 2004
WASHINGTON Vice President Dick Cheney stepped up the Bush campaign's assault on John Kerry's economic record, asserting that the Massachusetts Democrat would turn the country back to recession by raising taxes on all Americans. Kerry shot back that the administration had sprung Cheney from "an undisclosed location and brought him out to attack me."
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The jousting Monday also focused on the nation's rising gasoline prices, with both camps blaming each other for prices approaching $2 a gallon on average.
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"If it keeps going up, Dick Cheney and George Bush are going to have to car-pool to work together," Kerry said Monday evening at a fund-raiser in San Francisco.
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Kerry's campaign said he would propose a plan on Tuesday to drive down fuel costs by suspending replenishment of the nation's Strategic Petroleum Reserve and by urging oil-producing countries to increase production.
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http://www.iht.com/articles/512638.html
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:29 PM
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1. Kerry should ignore the creep
the man is a felon.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:40 PM
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3. No
Kerry should find a way to make them look like the embarrassments they really are. Make the country laugh at them, and they'll drop like stones.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:51 PM
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6. I think "appeasing" *LOL* character assasinations in no longer an option.
As a matter of fact, I believe escalated rhetorical offense is absolutely crucial in these early months. I find Kerry's rebuttal which effectively threw the monkey back on Cheney's back was quite effective.

Face it, when you are dealing with an "anything goes" opposition you had damned be prepared to be smarter, more durable and exceedingly persistent to win the battle.
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:58 PM
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10. Cheney IS a creep, but we all ignore him at our own peril
Just say no to the Cheney koolaid:




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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:39 PM
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2. How on earth could the rising gas price be Kerry's fault?
It's due to Haliburton sucking all the oil out of Iraq, and the falling dollar thinks to the world being embarrassed to admit that * is part of it!
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:41 PM
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4. Hmm, tell me again why taxes bring about a recession?
Edited on Tue Mar-30-04 08:52 PM by gristy
I don't understand the complex economics of our nation, and I certainly am not nearly as smart as Mr. Cheney, but it would seem that the money is going to be spent one way or another - we're only talking about who's money gets spent, and who does the spending:

Bush plan: Spend 1) the money of the middle/lower economic classes, and 2) lots of borrowed money, to be repaid by taxes on the middle/lower economic classes.

Kerry plan: Spend 1) the money of all the economic classes, and 2) a little less borrowed money, to be be repaid by taxes on all the economic classes.

Now, I apologize for being so dumb, Mr. Cheney, because the difference in tax plans seems pretty straightforward, but I just can't see it: How does the Kerry plan bring about a recession? :freak:
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bushbegone04 Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:49 PM
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5. I would like to know why
Cheney's speech about Kerry was broadcast almost in its entirety - this is so unfair to Democrats
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Piffle Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:57 PM
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7. What is so wrong with a .50 gas tax?
Think of the people in need it could help. The less able in America deserve our help and I think a big gas tax is the way to go. Americans drive too much as it is and this could help. It's time for Americans to step up and start using public transportation to get around.

Think about it... a family takes their SUV or RV to vacation wasting gas when they could take the bus and save us the pollution and global warming. SO what if they can't have the freedom of driving where they desire...they get to see their spots and save the world in the process!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:30 PM
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8. We already underwrite the cost of gas in our transportation and
military budgets.

Hell, this administration invested $200BB in Iraq and all we got is a bill from Halliburton for overcharged gas being delivered to Iraq.

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dax Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:39 PM
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Add fuel efficiency standards and more transit subsidy and it would WORK
We have the lowest subsidy of transit (and about the worst systems) of anywhere and our inefficient cars are a joke. They should refurbish the rail system-get rid of the privatizers who are trying to destroy it-and build a real transportation system. and super tax inefficient cars, give a credit for buying the most efficient ones etc. give tax credits to industries who produce alt fuels etc. so much could be done...
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dax Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:39 PM
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9. Add fuel efficiency standards and more transit subsidy and it would WORK
We have the lowest subsidy of transit (and about the worst systems) of anywhere and our inefficient cars are a joke. They should refurbish the rail system-get rid of the privatizers who are trying to destroy it-and build a real transportation system. and super tax inefficient cars, give a credit for buying the most efficient ones etc. give tax credits to industries who produce alt fuels etc. so much could be done...
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 06:03 PM
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13. Hi Piffle!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:18 PM
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11. The Sneering Dick
Turn the country back into recession? If that's what it was, I'm all for it!




http://www.wgoeshome.com
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:35 PM
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12. Yes, they are setting Kerry UP!
If he makes just one misstep they will run him to ground...

Just like the Dean fiasco...(The Scream)

Kerry needs to be more Kennedyesque, witty and clever with his words.
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