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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 08:43 AM
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Billionaires gather in Arizona to discuss giving (Warren Buffett)
Source: AP

What do dozens of American billionaires talk about when they get together? Their topic this week was of course money; not how to make it, but how to give it away.

Billionaire investor Warren Buffett said Friday that a private gathering was a great chance for the billionaires who have pledged to give away at least half their wealth to meet each other, compare notes, eat and laugh.

The media was banned from Thursday's first meeting of the group that has accepted the giving challenge by Buffett and his friend Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates. Since last June, 69 individuals or couples have made the giving pledge.

Buffett knew only about 12 of the 61 people at the dinner at the Miraval Resort in Tucson before the famously gregarious Berkshire Hathaway CEO worked the room and made 40 new friends.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110507/ap_on_re_us/us_gates_buffett_pledge



Rare is the non-'worthless' billionaire these days. Good for these folks.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 09:02 AM
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1. just think of all the glorious tax write-offs PLUS the feelgood pr accomplished
Pardon me if I don't think of them as marvelous billionaires. We would NOT be in this situation if elites weren't constantly working for tax cuts for themselves in the first damned place.

And now they expect adulation for a one-time correction against years of lobbying to fill their own pockets?

Meh.

They still have figured ways of benefitting in public while plotting in private.
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nyy1998 Donating Member (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 09:08 AM
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2. Yes, they benefitted, but would you be happier they just sit on that money instead?
Warren Buffet has put his money where his mouth and it's nice that a few of these guys are atleast doing something positive with their money. I could care less if they benefit from it.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 12:48 PM
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15. I would be happier if Buffett hadn't been bailed out by US taxpayers..
Edited on Sat May-07-11 12:59 PM by girl gone mad
The man is sleazy and this PR campaign isn't going to restore his image.
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nyy1998 Donating Member (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 05:17 PM
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17. Buffet wasn't bailed out, a few of his banker friends sure was. nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 09:50 AM
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 10:03 AM
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7. And yet, billions of dollars are going to go to charitable organizations
of all kinds. That's a good thing in itself. That doesn't require your "adulation." I'm sure the people who will be donating this money don't really give much of a damn what you think of them in the first place.

However, the organizations who are the beneficiaries of those billions will no doubt send their thanks, and will use the money to benefit their causes.

Sorry, but I don't see any negative consequences here. Maybe you can describe some of the ways these billions of dollars will not benefit people. I'd love to hear that description, if you can muster one up.

-100 for Scrooge-like grumbling.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 12:54 PM
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16. Apparently Buffett does give a damn what people think of him.
Edited on Sat May-07-11 12:57 PM by girl gone mad
His public image has suffered enormously in recent weeks, which is likely why he's doing this. He will probably have to sit in front of a jury at some point as the Sokol affair plays out.

He wouldn't have those billions if it hadn't been for American taxpayers. Personally, I would prefer if my taxes had gone directly to help the poor, rather than being funneled through this insider trading, business destroying clown.


http://blogs.reuters.com/rolfe-winkler/2009/08/04/buffetts-betrayal/
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 07:35 PM
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18. He was pledging money way before the Sokol affair
years ago, in fact.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 09:13 AM
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3. Great, except, why Arizona?
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 09:53 AM
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5. My Thoughts Exactly
There's a whole bunch of reasons to boycott that state - guns, Brewer, and the 60% of AZ's who agree with her.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 09:53 AM
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6. Why not? I'm in TX...wish it had been here in Dallas. Would help the economy.
Although we're doing all right economically, compared to many other states.

Why do people and companies hold their conventions in various states or various hotels or convention centers, or various cities, any time? The reasons run from it was the choice of the staffer who put it together to it was the best deal offered from any hotel/state/city, to it was the most convenient or centrally located for the people who would be attending.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 09:15 AM
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25. As the saying goes, if you have to ask......However, I was referring to Arizona's policies of late.
Edited on Sun May-08-11 09:58 AM by No Elephants
People of conscience have been cancelling events there, not booking them.

I assumed people would recognize that my question was rhetorical, given that no one here can read the mind of the person who chose Arizona. Maybe I over-estimated.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 10:05 AM
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8. Arizona's lovely this time of year. These people are at some
resort in Scottsdale or someplace like that. I'm sure they'll enjoy the views and the weather while they figure out how to distribution billions. I hope they do. The end result of this will benefit many people and many causes. Where these people meet is irrelevant.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 09:22 AM
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26. Are you saying they chose Arizona because of the weather? If so, how do you know?
Besides, lots of other U.S. locales have lovely weather now.
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DallasNE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 10:12 AM
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9. Arizona, Of All Places
What kind of message does that send? It negates all of the goodwill from the conference. Sometimes Buffett has a tin ear and this is one of those times.
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 11:01 AM
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10. I'm guessing the Koch brothers won't be attending? n/t
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 11:39 AM
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11. This is a good idea but all too many think that giving to your political
party is giving. I like what Buffett and Gates are doing but then there are the Koch brothers who give only out of self-interest. I would rather see them agree to a good tax increase.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 11:50 AM
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12. What country are they going to give it to? China? India? Pakstan?
Edited on Sat May-07-11 11:51 AM by valerief
We know it won't be the U.S.

And they'll give it to other billionaires, of course. Nothing goes to help "the people". We're human resources. The most important thing in the world is to make rich people richer.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 07:36 PM
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19. Africa is a large recipient of Gates
And people there are truly needy.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 11:52 AM
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13. Better than going to jail ...
where they really belong.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 12:28 PM
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14. How about using their billions as growth capital for creating jobs?
Edited on Sat May-07-11 12:31 PM by lunatica
I hope they talk about giving billions to small companies in the Green Industry.

I hope they give to universities in the form of donations and grants for research and scholarships for students.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 08:05 PM
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20. Buffet and Gates have been giving billions for years
and I know Buffet has spoken out against tax cuts for the ultra wealthy.

I know people are frustrated by the growing inequality in this country and I sure am too, but unless they have clearly committed crimes, I don't really understand these flippant comments about them deserving to be in jail, by mere fact that they've become very wealthy.

Now on the other hand if you were talking about the Koch brothers, then I agree - those two are grade A ass holes.

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 09:24 AM
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27. I don't know about giving billions for years, esp. Buffet.
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Nossida Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 08:07 PM
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21. here is one for you Filthy Rich Oligarchs
Edited on Sat May-07-11 08:09 PM by Nossida
Instead of handing Billions over to Foundations and Corporations,
Generate a list of People living below the Poverty Level, here in
the States, of whom there are an abundance, and make them all a
Millionaire. It would end the Recession within weeks, as these
poor creatures would do one thing with the money., BUY STUFF!
Demand for goods, and services, would go into orbit as a result.
Of course they would go spend money. Isn't the lack of commerce
whats killing the Economy?

Instead of handing billions to the Thieves on Wall Street, which
did nothing but make them even more Rich, using the Taxes of the
Plebs, try thinking of the Plebs for a change. Since you want to
hand Billions out, give it to the People that never get a break.
You might think of the Homeless Children, and do something for
them for a change. No one else does, or will. That the US has many
Homeless Children is a disgrace. Criticize the Europeans all you
want, they do not allow Homelessness, and Hunger in their Union.

Don't give a penny to the Churches, as Bush already made them all
Rich thru 'Faith Based Initiatives'. The Vultures constantly have
their hand out for more.

If you hand the Money over to Corporations and Foundations, they
will bank it and collect interest, and the Plebs will get nothing.
As usual. The bailouts of 2008 and 2010 were great for Bureaucrats,
Bankers, and their Wallets. Do something for the Working Poor for
a change. The Common Plebs in the States have been bled white by
the System.
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 08:47 PM
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22. Bunch of thieves.
Their wealth is amassed on the backs of sweatshop labor, the working poor and custom made tax laws.

They are scum.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 09:35 PM
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23. Buffet may well be the real thing, but Gates' gifts, especially
in Africa, have way too many harmful strings attached.
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Las Vegas Mixx Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 06:44 AM
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24. a few billionaires who surely were NOT there ...
Edited on Sun May-08-11 06:55 AM by Las Vegas Mixx

I can guess a few billionaires who were not there, including:






Sheldon Adelson (Las Vegas)
Steve Wynn (Las Vegas)
the Waltons (Walmart)
David and Charles Koch, bankrolled the Tea Party, Scott Walker, and Tom Delay
Dick Cheney (Bush's Darth Vadar)
Rupert Murdoch (Faux News)
Steve Forbes
Donald Trump ("it's all about me")
Rich DeVos
Ken Langone
Diane Hendricks
Carl Lindner
George Argyros
Stanley Hubbard
Peter Thiel
Richard Farmer
Roger Milliken

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