Pakistan Prime Minister to warn US over Osama bin Laden raid

Source: UK Telegraph

Yusuf Raza Gilani will seek to restore some dignity in an address to the nation after the humiliation caused when American forces killed Osama bin Laden at a compound close to Pakistan's main military academy in Abbottabad last week without alerting Pakistan.

A senior government source close to the prime minister said while Mr Gilani will take an aggressive stand to shore up the government's position.

The source said: "The Prime Minister will say that the United States should not have bypassed Pakistan. We have made a huge contribution in fighting terrorism. We've arrested close to 100 al-Qaeda people, including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

"We'll take appropriate action if any further violation takes place. We will defend our air space by any means we have."

Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8501266/Pakistan-Prime-Minister-to-warn-US-over-Osama-bin-Laden-raid.html

To hell with these double dealing shit heads, tell them stop helping these terrorists with one hand while taking our money with the other. And the next time they want to talk tough tell them they just might get smacked around a bit.

seriously. Until the US starts facing sanctions and criminal action for it's criminal acts, it's really not going to care who gets miffed at one of its 'raids'.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

seized are some names of Military or ISI go-to guys that ObL used. That might help the Pakistani government.

:eyes:

Pakistan could turn all Afghanistan in a heartbeat.
Next to India you're a 'nuclear power', but don't
let that go to your head - you'd never get
anything off the ground if it came to that.
Sit back and consider your sorry ass lucky we still
smile at your face.

thanks for presenting a text book model of the Ugly American.

If you think the reason Al Qaeda exist is the united states not giving enough consideration to other countries, it is more about the history of the Soviet Union's colonial folly in Afghanistan and the United States misguided attempt to get back at the Soviet Union for Vietnam.

And your snarky remarks aside, it doesn't change the validity of my premise.

what a bunch of nerve.

sucka

Will he also be addressing how OBL managed to hide on his doorstep for years, all while Pakistan was collecting US dollars to help hunt for him? That seems like quite the coincidence.

Your were supposed to tell us when you were about to get bin laden. How else are we going to move him just in time to save your justification for giving us billions of dollars?

What a bunch of Lying liars, tellin' lying lies, they are, I'm sayin'! And smiling, too, while they're doin' it, Dagnabbit! May the fleas of 10,000 camels infest their nether regions! So there... I'm done... Thank You...

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The only think Pakistanis are good at.

This is a further extension on the propaganda theme that Pakistan can't defend Pakistan, which is, I think, a mistaken portrayal of the situation. Of course, the mainstream and left alternative media have been the vehicle for propagating the falsehood that Pakistan can't defend its nuclear weapons either and that it is the "white man's burden" to keep their armies in Afghanistan indefinitely until this threat to world peace is ended.

The real question is can the US and its NATO supporters really maintain their forces in Afghanistan with active opposition from the Pakistani Armed Forces? It is not that much of an achievement to penetrate a foreign nations territory with low flying aircraft. That is simply a tactic. It is especially easy where a country a priori has determined that a major war is not in its interest and has gone out of its way to restrain it capability to defend itself in the interest of avoiding uncontrolled war. After all, if you shoot down a US military aircraft in anger, the prospects for future peace don't look good.

Could the US avoid interdiction of its supply lines to Afghanistan in the event of overt conflict with Pakistan? The US forces on the ground there would need to rely on other countries for inferior ground logistics and for a time be presented with a "Berlin crisis" of a military nature. Would the US go ahead then and bomb the hell out of Pakistan? I think so. Would China sit by and do nothing? In lieu of WW III, China could simply move its most advanced anti air missiles into Pakistan and perhaps Afghanistan to interfere with US air operations and begin organizing and mobilizing for general war at an unspecified future date. This is a very ugly prospect.

As the economic crisis in the US continues, it is irresponsible brinkmanship to continue drone attacks and other military incursions into Pakistan. American forces need to be pulled out of central Asia or we risk at the very least, a catastrophe much larger than that sustained in Vietnam, and possibly a nuclear war. I say nuclear war, because it is already official Pentagon policy, which they declared before the irresponsible invasion of Iraq, to commit "preemptive" nuclear strikes rather than sustain surprise military reversals on the ground.

I think the problem is they don't want to defend Americans.

I'm sure we'd just love to have some other nation's UAVs crossing our borders and bombing us.

I mean they SAID they wanted us to help them bomb terrorists and to catch OBL.

It's like when a dude says, "Hey, get that splinter out of my ass," and then you pay him a billion dollars for the splinter and say, "Okay, I'm gonna pull on three... One... PULL!"

...I'll bomb you!

Cause and effect

Plus, we'll probably find a bin Laden poster on his bedroom ceiling.

It says www.democraticunderground.com in the url, but it reads like FR...

Interesting times indeed...

it's sickening.

I happen to think President Obama did the right thing... and I also think that the vast majority of Americans do too.

Reversing the right's delusion that America is the only force for good in the world into a delusion about America being nothing but a force for evil in the world moves right along the axis of lies and approaches no closer to truth.

Once we establish the principle (and we have now well-established it in the last 10 years for sure) that no nation is sovereign, and that any nation can be invaded without recourse by another, then our reasons for complaining about 911 are gone.

What was the problem with 911? Had something to do with foreign folk destroying US property and lives inside the US.

What was the result of the bin Laden raid? Destruction of local property and lives by foreign folk (that's us).

So since 2=2, we no longer have any moral standing for our actions, even for the bloody-minded. I never thought we had any from the beginning. I have not supported, nor do I support, any of the US military actions since I've been alive, and I was born in 1948.

But even the most simple-minded must realize that for sure, now we have forfeited any right to complain no matter who does what on US soil.

We're worried now!

and I agreed and supported the raid on OBL ....

I think they should lose the financial support as we pull out ... But some of the posts here about nuking them and shit ? ...

Cmon .... Are you for real ???

I'll agree with ya there!

and I did not support the raid. I find the tone of this thread disturbing, at best.

Once Obama learned with certainty where OBL was he had to act decisively. Had he not and word leaked that he didn't 'do something', I think it would have been politically disastrous. Someone in the military/intelligence community would have leaked that Obama knew, yet did nothing. Damn'd if ya do, damn'd if ya don't. A tough spot to be in. The raid was better than a cruise missile or a bombing raid.

Of course, the War On Terror™ is mostly a rationalization for U.S. aggression in maintaining empire, the very thing that breeds terrorism to begin with.

You're in no position to stomp your precious little feet and pout, Mister. Your country harbored bin Laden for years, so your options are to acknowledge that fact and either prosecute or hand over the people who helped him.

They would have moved him far away had they known anything about the covert operation.