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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 10:02 PM
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Ecuador votes to end 500 years of bullfighting
Source: Irish Times

The Irish Times - Monday, May 9, 2011
Ecuador votes to end 500 years of bullfighting

TOM HENNIGAN in São Paulo

~snip~
As well as ending the killing of bulls in the ring, voters in a referendum held on Saturday outlawed cockfighting and casino gambling. More controversially, President Rafael Correa won approval for new controls on the country’s media and financial sectors.

Voters backed all 10 constitutional reforms backed by the popular Mr Correa, who campaigned hard in favour of the new measures. Provisional results though from electoral authorities show the margin of victory was tighter than expected.

The president’s opponents had claimed the referendum was the latest moves in his campaign since taking power in 2007 to strengthen the power of Ecuador’s executive. However, at a victory rally on Saturday night, Mr Correa called the result a victory for his “citizens’ revolution”, saying voters had not been scared off by a “ferocious opposition” and a corrupt press. “We have beaten them all,” he told supporters.

Bullfighting has long been a traditional pastime of Ecuador’s European-descended elite. Its supporters sought to portray the proposed ban as an attack on their freedom of expression and cultural heritage and claimed an end to the spectacle would leave 100,000 people out of work.

Read more: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2011/0509/1224296491068.html
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 10:04 PM
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1. good news for animal lovers everywhere
I know it is for me K&R
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 10:41 PM
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2. This is great news
It is a civil thing to do and should be outlawed everywhere.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 10:58 PM
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3. K&R
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center rising Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:02 PM
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4. Now we have to get Spain to outlaw it.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:52 PM
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12. Catalonia did.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 12:20 AM
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13. Mexico too!
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Bravo Zulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:03 PM
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5. It's about time!
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:13 PM
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6. K&R!!! Excellent!!! n/t
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:13 PM
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7. Cheers!! We won't end violence against humans until we end violence against animal-life -- !!
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:21 PM
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8. Another victory for consciousness.
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4saken Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:35 PM
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9. Very good to hear. n/t
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:40 PM
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10. K&R!
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Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:43 PM
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11. K&R!
A most welcome development!
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 12:44 AM
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14. Good news. I wish we could end bullshitting in the U.S. nt
Edited on Mon May-09-11 12:45 AM by valerief
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 01:04 AM
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15. Viva el toro !



Ecuadoran toreadores protest before the referendum.


But it would have been nice if the Irish Times reporter had fact checked. He cites "500 years" of bullfighting in Ecuador. Can't be, because the Conquistadores did not arrive in Ecuador 500 years ago (1537 is the date recognized). Bullfighting is thought to have been begun sometime in the mid-1700s.

But that is what happens when a reporter in Sao Paulo, Brazil, writes stories about events in Ecuador, which is thousands of miles northwest of Brazil, on the other side of the continent.

The referendum question:

«¿Está usted de acuerdo en que en el cantón de su domicilio se prohíban los espectáculos que tengan como finalidad dar muerte al animal?»

"Are you in agreement that in the cantón where you live that (entertainment) spectacles whose outcome is to kill the animal be prohibited?"

Cantón in Ecuador is a political entity (region). Bullfights may still take place in a cantón in which the voters voted against the prohibition.



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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 02:39 PM
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24. Thanks for providing the missing facts, and the photo of disgruntled matadors.
They might consider taking their skills to the streets, creating mime street bullfighting! Could use buses as bulls.

Would be a lot more equal than large numbers of men with swords and horses against one trapped animal brought there to be sacrificed.

500 years did seem a very long time for bullfighting in Ecuador. Maybe he confused Ecuador with Spain? Easy mistake for some, I guess.

I hope the cantons won't use their "states' rights" privilege to keep this non-sporting event alive.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 01:09 AM
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16. that's great. nt
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 04:39 AM
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17. "new controls on the country’s media"
Not to minimize the bullfighting ban, which is good, but what kind of media controls did it allow? Was the bullfighting ban an emotional hook to slip in media controls?
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UnrepentantLiberal Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 04:49 AM
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19. That's called pulling a Bush/Obama.
Gotta watch what you say, watch what you do.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 04:49 AM
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18. I can understand the bans on bullfighting and cockfighting...
but casino gambling?
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 05:51 AM
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20. Wow...there are places in the world where civilization actually advances!
Reason for hope.

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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 10:01 AM
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21. Congratulations, Ecuador!
Now, Mexico and Spain, you're next.
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queenjane Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 10:30 AM
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22. Other countries get it-cruelty to other creatures diminishes us
And yet here, in the "greatest country on earth", state legislature by state legislature, we're still having to fight to outlaw cockfighting, bear baiting, spring-trapping of foxes, and to ensure animal shelters keep their charges fed, warm, and decently housed, and that euthanasia is done in the most humane way possible.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 12:31 PM
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23. Last Gasp of the Roman Gladitorial Contests
They stopped humans fighting each other many centuries ago, but the animal events have continued into the 21s century.
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marasinghe Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 02:44 PM
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25. nice. chalk one up for civilization. (n/t)
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