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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 01:54 AM
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Judge rules against Koch Industries in media hoax
Source: Kansas City Star

WICHITA | A federal judge on Monday sided with environmental pranksters behind a media hoax targeting Koch Industries Inc., upholding First Amendment protections for anonymous political speech on the Internet.

U.S. District Judge Dale Kimball in Utah tossed out a lawsuit filed by Koch Industries stemming from a bogus website and fake news release issued in December that falsely announced that the Wichita-based company was changing its financial commitments on climate change to fund more environmentally friendly groups. Koch's lawsuit had sought monetary damages as well as the identities of the pranksters.

Kimball also issued an order prohibiting Koch — one of the nation's largest privately held companies — from using any identifying information it may have already obtained from an earlier subpoena on the company that had unwittingly hosted the fake website for a few hours before it was taken down.

"Before authorizing subpoenas seeking to strip speakers of their First Amendment right to anonymity, courts require plaintiffs to make a preliminary showing that their complaint has merit," the judge wrote.

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/05/09/2863193/judge-rules-against-koch-industries.html



Yes, one for the little guy!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 03:44 AM
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1. Suckaaaaazzzzz!
Will the Koch's ever care about anything but that psychotic reaching for ever more power? They're like something out of a sci-fi novel. "Forever Future Evil"
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QED Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 06:53 AM
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7. Evil + pathological greed n/t
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PuffedMica Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 05:06 AM
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2. K&R
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 05:15 AM
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3. Wow - the Billionaire RepubliBaggers Against America have such thin, whiney skin
Edited on Tue May-10-11 05:16 AM by SpiralHawk
They dishes it out all over the place, then whine like Petulant Porkers when they get a little prank sent their way...

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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 06:32 AM
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4. What is that critter in the pic? nt.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 07:09 AM
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8. Piggy
wild unprincipled greedy piggy (R)
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blackbart99 Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 01:59 PM
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29. Great photo I.D. of the right wing today........n/t
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 08:08 AM
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12. Exactly. How much Koch money has funded thuglican ads where they just make sh*t up?
gazillions I think.
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GreatInDayton Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 09:57 AM
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19. Heavens!
What is this picture?
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 01:56 PM
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28. "Petulant Porkers"
The nocturnal gregarious Wild swine

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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 06:33 AM
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5. K&R to THAT!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 06:34 AM
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6. "damages as well as the identities"
They must need to know where to send the mop up crew?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 07:35 AM
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9. "Media hoax" sounds so much more widespread, damaging and sinister
Edited on Tue May-10-11 07:41 AM by No Elephants
than "fake news release on website," doesn't it? Plays into the RW paranoia about liberal media, too. (Hey, some of them really believe that.)

Something fake posted on an internet website. I hope Henny Penny is all over that.
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 07:51 AM
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10. Yes I never heard of this until Kochs lawsuit
They have succeeded as spreading even more bad press about themselves.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 09:06 AM
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15. Which they will turn into good press
I'm sure they will turn it to their advantage,feeding into the grievance politics that are the Tea Party's most potent recruiting tool (as well as that of every other fascist movement in history). The liberal judges are persecuting real Americans, rise up and take your country back, yadda yadda yadda.
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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 07:55 AM
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11. Suck it dry you fuckers. n/t
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blackbart99 Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 02:02 PM
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30. lmao......
"suck it dry you F@#$$%^'s":rofl: :yourock: :headbang: :fistbump:
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Big Orange Jeff Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 08:36 AM
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13. So, let me get this straight...
A company that pushes for a SCOTUS ruling allowing anonymous, unlimited political donations (on the grounds that their free speech rights have been violated) files a lawsuit in which they ask for their so-called offenders to be identified and have their free speech rights violated.

Oh, irony, you never let us down...
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 09:05 AM
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14. +1000000000
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 01:46 PM
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I was thinking the same thing
These guys always have a seperate set of rules for themselves.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 09:06 AM
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16. True libertarians . . . freedom for ME but not for THEE.
They hate big gov't . . . hate it . . . until they get pranked and then they run straight to the nanny state.

Typical.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 09:34 AM
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18. Freedom for those with Money=undemocratic
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Athena66 Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 12:01 PM
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23. Absolutely correct
The government is their "enemy." Until they want to try to use it to get their own way. Hypocrites.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 09:31 AM
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17. Here's the "prank" news release, the subject of the lawsuit.
I'd not heard of this lawsuit or the prank. The evil is that they object to the things said about them in the news release.

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/45044630
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 10:39 AM
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20. Even the Koch Brothers do not like having their ass handed back to them
It ain't over yet!!!

K & R
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the_chinuk Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 11:12 AM
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21. This is why people like that want to own the world
This is why they want to take it away from us. So they can do whatever they want and not have to apologize or even make amends.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 11:44 AM
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22. I don't get it. How can Koch lose? They must be getting something good from this.
Billionaires never lose.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 01:46 PM
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 01:42 PM
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24. "one for the little guy" is on the endangered species list.
Edited on Tue May-10-11 01:57 PM by Enthusiast
Seriously.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 01:45 PM
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Dont call me Shirley Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 01:51 PM
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27. Koch's The Matter With Kansas
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 02:25 PM
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31. "How DARE anyone say we might do the right thing!"
Signed, David Koch.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 04:09 PM
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32. Very cool.
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 06:17 PM
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33. You gotta ask yourself
how full of oneself one needs to be to file a lawsuit merely because one got punked? A corollary question is why are there fewer conservative comedians than black NHL players?
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 06:36 PM
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34. K & R !!!
:kick:
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 07:45 PM
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35. Yeah! 10 pts for Mother Earth, the humans & life living on it & for justice!
:applause:

Nice to see when the deep pocket oil billionaires can't buy & bully their way to getting their way. Besides, no sense of humor on their part. I saw the hoax website - it was funny!
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 08:03 PM
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36. Trying to silence the truth, and PWNED! n/t
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