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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 11:24 PM
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For House Speaker Boehner at commencement address, scrutiny of Catholic charity
Source: Washington Post

Katy Jamison strode toward her graduation from Catholic University on Saturday wearing the requisite black robe and mortar board — plus a neon green message to House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio).

"Where’s the compassion, Mr. Boehner?” said the 8-by-10-inch sign pinned to her chest.

Jamison, 26, said Boehner, the keynote speaker at Catholic’s graduation and recipient of an honorary law doctorate, had cut too much in the federal budget aimed at protecting the poor. Doing so defied the Catholic church’s teachings, she said, and will hurt the people she hopes to help with her newly minted master’s degree in social work.

“His policies reflect different values than the values of social work professionals, which are to help people who are poor, vulnerable and repressed,” Jamison said.



Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/for-house-speaker-boehners-catholic-charity-scrutinized-at-commencement-address/2011/05/14/AFNOxi3G_story.html



Congratulations to students at Catholic University for actually demanding that GOP politicians who play to them do not ignore the parts of the bible discussing how Jesus ministered to the poor. The corporate media and corporate evangelicals have re-written the gospel to preserve those in power when the actual bible tells a story of a Christ who ministered to the oppress. Remember Glenn Beck's rant against liberation theologians as socialists?

There are some Christians who do not conveniently ignore the huge portions of the Bible dedicated to social justice. The bible does not mention abortion, but it sure does mention the need to care for the poor and needy.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 11:36 PM
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1. K&R !!! n/t
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 11:37 PM
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2. Family Values: A strong family needs to be able to earn a decent
living so they can raise healthy and educated children.

The GOP has pushed Free Trade Policies and certainly
refrained from managing them in such a way as to yes,
protect America's Interests. Instead they opened the
gates and permitted Transnationals to send the jobs
out of this country. If they did not understand this
country could not be sustained by a Service Economy,
really should they have been in Congress??? Therefore
we are left to assume they really were only concerned
with Business Interest, not the American People.
It is time for some Economic Patriotism.

There is more to Family Values than Guns, Gays and Abortion.
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 02:40 AM
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9. Hear hear.
Family Values are things like honor, love, respect, honesty, faithfulness, loyalty. These kinds of things are VALUES. Nuclear families, heterosexual marriage -- these reflect family STRUCTURES. Conservatives often conflate the two.

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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 08:42 AM
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15. Ironically, it is still not too late.
Bill clinton told us that there were (are?) clauses in NAFTA (I would suppose all (?) of the "free trade agreements", that allows us to negotiate for more Fair trade. He also said that if the agreements were not beneficial to Americans (all Americans, I would think) that we could legally withdraw from these treaties.

Legally or not, it doesn't matter. Look at the Kyoto treaty. "We proposed it, yet because it interfered with the polluting of the wealthy corporations, we refused to sign it.

We, as "regular Americans" (not wealthy) must UNITE and demand the same kind of consideration from OUR government as the "top 2%" get. WE are the Majority here. Let's Demand OUR RIGHTS.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 11:18 AM
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24. I'm with you on this.......nt
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lsewpershad Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 02:22 PM
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30. Me,too
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 12:27 AM
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3. HUGE applause!
Where IS the compassion, Mr. Boehner?!
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 12:56 AM
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4. YES! That's what Catholicism is REALLY about - loving and helping people!
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AllTooEasy Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 01:09 AM
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5. Catholicism is the reason why I vote Democrat.

Abortion does not overcome all other Christian values. To hell with Protestants who think otherwise!
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 02:15 AM
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7. It's also why I'm a Democrat!
Edited on Sun May-15-11 02:20 AM by UrbScotty
Of course, there are Protestants AND Catholics who seem to think that abortion is the only issue that matters. But thankfully there are plenty of people - Protestant, Catholic, and otherwise - who know that there are many issues out there about which to be concerned.
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LetTimmySmoke Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 02:13 AM
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6. As much as the catholic church deserved to be derided for the treatment of the sex abuse scandal
To the extent that they stand up for social justice for the poor, especially in the face of Boehner and company's assault, they should be commended.

And I'm an atheist.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 07:02 AM
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11. It's not the Church that stands up most of the time it's the parishioners...
who actually take the words of Jesus to heart.
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michaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 08:31 AM
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13. The parishioners "are" the church! n/t
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 09:04 AM
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16. Too bad the parishioners don't make the rules. Might be a nicer Church.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 11:53 AM
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27. This is where even Marxists can combine
Edited on Sun May-15-11 11:53 AM by socialist_n_TN
in a united front with the Catholic Church. I will reserve the right to criticize the Church in matters of abortion, contraception, Papal infallibility, and even preistly celibacy, but ECONOMICALLY I can get behind this.

And yes as another poster said above, the "liberation theology" of some priests in the 60s/70s that Glenn Beck derided WAS socialist and Marxian socialism at that. I applaud them for it!

At this stage of the class struggle in the United States, the united front on certain issues is a MUST.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 02:21 AM
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8. K&R. nt
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raouldukelives Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 06:54 AM
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10. K&R
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 08:08 AM
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12. Rock on Katy Jamison!
You go girl!
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forty6 Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 09:19 AM
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17. Yes, all power to her and graduates like her!
She's doing what has to be done, question authority and demand accountability.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 08:39 AM
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14. Isn't "compassionate conservative" an oxymoron?
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 03:59 PM
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31. That's what I thought the first time I heard bush say it.
It can't be done and isn't.
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49jim Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 09:22 AM
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18. Cryin' Time Again! n/t
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Mrs. Ted Nancy Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 06:58 PM
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34. LOL n/t
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perdita9 Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 09:22 AM
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19. Abortion is in the Bible: Numbers, chapt. 5
This is the only direct mention of abortion in the Bible. This section includes instructions on how to perform on in front of a priest with a poison designed to cause a miscarriage.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 09:36 AM
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20. K&R
We need more of this scrutiny. More Christians need to step up against the intense cruelty of the modern Republicans and others who would slash the social budgets before asking multimillionaires to pay more in taxes.

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Agony Donating Member (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 09:45 AM
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21. 2% care enough to stand and be counted! There are good people in the world.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 09:50 AM
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22. These are the cafeteria Catholics who don't get criticized in the media
Isn't it rich? Left-wing "cafeteria Catholics" are constantly being threatened with excommunication by rightie Catholic groups and bishops, while the cafeteria Catholics on the right seem to get off scot-free.

You know the one's I'm mentioning: those who turn their backs on the poor while favoring tax breaks for the Wall Street scammers; those who want illegals (read: non-white immigrants) kicked out of the country; the closeted, and not-so-closeted, racists, sexists, and classists; union-busters; etc.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 10:07 AM
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23. How any true Christian could support republicans is a mystery to me.
They've got the fake "Christians" sewn up. But there are (there must be) plenty of good, decent Christians like the ones who have held the Boner up to scrutiny here who realize that the republican party is about one thing and one thing only: money and power for rich, powerful people. This does not square in any way with anything Christian.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 12:09 PM
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28. +1000.
The Republicans are as un-Christlike as anyone could be.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 11:29 AM
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25. Why the hypocrisy? What FUNCTION does the disjunct between Bible & church serve?
Edited on Sun May-15-11 11:43 AM by patrice
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/2/21/93251/2321/Dominionism_in_the_military/The_Catholic_Right_s_Assault_on_Keynes

I suspect that what these two economists are doing is further proof of an increasing number of Religious Right giving religious cover for a very secular economic agenda. This is beyond convergence, as we have seen by the actions of Religious Right activists such as Robert P. George and Opus Dei convert CNBC cable host Larry Kudlow. It is being deliberately pursued. They are increasingly converging to destroy the very tools of wealth creation for the poor and working class: Keynesian economics and labor unions.


ALSO:

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/1/3/122613/0240/Front_Page/The_Rise_of_Charismatic_Dominionism

Indeed the gradual abandonment of Dispensationalism could have resulted in a shift to a more progressive theology and the emerging movement does look and sound quite different from the previous white, male-dominated Fundamentalism. However, the leadership of this multi-cultural movement with its women Apostles and Prophets and focus on societal "transformation" has not embraced the social gospel, but a full blown Dominionist or "Kingdom Now" theology that is sweeping the globe and impacting churches across the spectrum of Christianity.

Dominionism

What is "Dominionism" in this context? It is a word that has been used casually to mean many different things in recent years, including being used erroneously in reference to Dispensationalists, whose well-defined prophecy timeline includes no plan whatsoever for taking dominion over the earth. One of the major features of Dispensationalism is a pre-Tribulation Rapture, therefore "born again" Christians will not still be present on the natural earth when the battles of the end times take place. They will then watch from the grandstands of heaven and play no role in the defeat of Satan and his minions.

Dominionism is a term that should only be used for those whose eschatological timeline requires that Christians, in some way, gain complete authority over the earth before the return of Jesus can take place. This can refer to some postmillennial theologies or forms of premillennial theology in which Christians are not Raptured prior to the Tribulation. The term Dominionism should not be used to describe pre-Tribulation Dispensational theology.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 11:34 AM
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26. Sociopaths don't feel shame
Good for her, because it brings attention to the crap and hypocracy the Repugs pull but don't count on any change in behavior. Sociopaths are incapable of feeling shame and they sure as hell don't feel compassion.
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 12:48 PM
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29. Good job, Katy!
I trust the church will leave her alone, or at best get behind her.
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The Hitman Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 05:11 PM
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32. Catholics generally have been quite liberal
It's just grasping the abortion issue post Roe that has made so many hardcore Catholics vote in droves for the GOP.

Let's not forget Kennedy, and of course, JOE BIDEN!
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 08:01 PM
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37. "Catholics generally have been quite liberal"
Yes, the female popes and priests, gay marriages, and giving money to the poor rather than building expensive churches all over the world... very liberal.

:sarcasm:
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 05:56 PM
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33. Such a good post. Haven't seen a "yeah, but..." post.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 07:41 PM
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35. Boehner Cries Giving Catholic University Commencement Speech (video)
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Randy_P Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 07:54 PM
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36. Kick & Rec
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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 08:04 PM
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38. Beautifully done, Ms. Jamison!! Thank you!! n/t
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Corruption Winz Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 09:03 PM
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39. I'm not at all religious. I'm skeptical to say the least....
But even I know that Jesus was not a friend of the greedy and had a tendency to side with the poor folk.....

Could be wrong.
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