Violent Arctic storm a climate-change ‘harbinger,’ study finds

Source: The Globe and Mail

The Inuvialuit living in the Mackenzie Delta of the Northwest Territories watched incredulously in September, 1999, as a particularly violent storm swept the Arctic Ocean 20 kilometers inland killing all vegetation in its path and leaving lakes infused with salt water.

Local elders said nothing like it had ever happened in the known history of their people – and it turns out they were right.

Scientists from Carleton University in Ottawa and Queen’s University in Kingston, who attribute the surge to global warming, have looked at tree trunks and lake beds to determine that no comparable event has occurred in at least 1,000 years.

“It’s just another example of how recent climatic factors seem to be out of our normal range of variability,” John Smol, a professor at the Paleoecological Environment Assessment and Research Lab at Queen’s said Monday as the study was about to be released.

Read more: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/violent-arctic-storm-a-climate-change-harbinger-study-finds/article2023865/

Sheesh!

-Hoot

thats how you nominate a post right?

Bah.. didn't knew foxnews hosts hamburgers

Thanks for the thread, Newsjock.

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And of course the deniers will be claiming this right up until the day the oceans swallow their houses.

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Owsley Stanley bronze case belt buckle

Ice Ages: Cause of Glaciation -- A theoretical treatment

Since 1982 I have been working out the causative mechanism for the initiation of the glacial advance and retreat which has occurred for the last ~2 million years. I have shared some of the theoretical musings with George Kukla of Columbia's Lamont-Doherty lab. He believes that my concept of the causation lying with an atmospheric (meteorological) event is the only currently believable one. All attempts to model theoretical climatic scenarios such as the Milankovitch have failed to present any glaciation.

I believe the causation of the glacial masses (which, as we know were not distributed around the North Pole in a symmetrical fashion, but were entirely confined to North America and Western Europe--Siberia was essentially ice free, although quite a bit closer to the pole), came about through a meteorological event, a storm of hemispheric proportions and cataclysmic intensity. I must warn you: the extreme and unusual weather being experienced everywhere in the world at this time is part of the build-up which leads into this "storm", which will result in the next period of ice.

more

http://worldnewstrust.com/all-content/edited/bear-s-storm-owsley-stanley.html

A little over half way through the article:




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I think he forgot to mention that this only works when the moon is full.

You're right, now that I think about it. : )

Thanks for that post. I'd been to his site a couple of times, but had never seen that essay. Chilling (ha ha). I'd dismiss it as pretentious rubbish but I've always thought that Owsley was quite brilliant. So that's why he moved down under, makes sense now. I wonder when he thought the storm would come? Looks to me like he was thinking it might well show up in his lifetime. Yikes.

I had the honor/pleasure of exchanging a few emails with him in 2003 as he helped as an advisor to the World News Trust project. He was a special person.

of course the real questions are how much of the change are we contributing to and or enhancing of which I personally have no doubt we are contributing to in some degree at the very least.

So does science... since the carbon isotopes in a lot of the CO2 are ones found from burning fossil fuels.

affecting that change is what all of the debate is about.

Very few people of an advanced age deny that the weather is changing, they have seen it first hand.

The cause is what many deny.

But the fact is it doesn't matter what the cause is. The cure is something we should do anyway.

Common sense tells you that oil is becoming harder and harder to find every year,
we need to replace it with renewable energy when and where ever possible.

You aren't breathing clean air. You can deny man pollutes the air all you want.

their drill site up here after all these years. It must be getting expensive for snow removal.