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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 11:10 AM
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Auschwitz museum unveils restored stolen sign
Source: BBC

Museum officials at the former Auschwitz concentration camp in Poland have restored the metal entrance sign damaged in a theft 17 months ago.

The "Arbeit macht frei" (work sets you free) sign was stolen by a gang of Polish thieves acting at the behest of a Swedish far-right-winger.

Technicians unveiled the restored sign in the laboratory of the camp museum.

More than one million people, mostly Jews from across Europe, were murdered by the Nazis at the camp.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13444744?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 11:14 AM
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1. for what it is worth ...


Makes me sick looking at this. I'd be fine with it never being "restored" or whatever. It should be dumped in the ocean with the likes of OBL.

:dem:

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 11:31 AM
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2. Looking at this makes you sick? Well, that's the point.
The Children need to see the full measure of evil here so they don't grow up to be like the Nazis.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 11:42 AM
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3. Will children know what it means?
It is a sign and it was in front of a concentration camp where people were murdered en mass. What do children learn from this exactly?

Yes, it makes me sick. I've been to Dachau (some 25 years ago). The place is so evil that not even a bird will land there. That right there is enough for me to know and as for Dachau, that is a place I could do without too. What does anyone learn about a concentration camp?

Just go look at an Indian reservation here in America. These "reservations" were the models for Hitler's concentration camps. We have enough already right here in America yet we ignore it and instead look at the sins of the Germans during WWII as if we are so damn innocent.

:dem:

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fatbuckel Donating Member (518 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 12:17 PM
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4. You learn to NOT LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN! Does that inconvenience you?
Edited on Wed May-18-11 12:17 PM by fatbuckel
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 12:58 PM
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8. it does not inconvenience me
Indian reservations don't inconvenience me either and they can be found right here in the USA. Have you been to one recently?

Have you been to an "Indian museum" to view the items contained in them. Said items are what was stolen from them before/after they were murdered. Does this bother YOU?

It bothers me a lot and I never go to "museums" that display these "artifacts" of this ONGOING genocide occurring right here in America today.

So we have a sign from a concentration camp to look at instead and the denial of what America has done is ignored while we use a sign from another place/era instead to hide behind. Sad fact.





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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 12:20 PM
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5. I Mostly Feel the Same Way, But...
...having had a Jewish step-Mother (and through her an uncle who survived treblinka) I believe that there is a goo reason to leavi it exactly where it had originally been placed. There are enough of these holocaust denying weasels out there (and on the opposite side, a high rate of people who were actually there who are dying every year) that I want the physical reminder to stay right where it is.

The fact that it was stolen at the behest of a far rightist is indicative of they know what a powerful reminder it is, as well as a direct contridiction of their denials.

PEACE!
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 12:47 PM
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7. good point
Edited on Wed May-18-11 12:48 PM by CountAllVotes
Given what you say, I can understand why you think it should be preserved; a sad fact that shouldn't be forgotten.

However, the American Indian has been forgotten it seems to me. We have the reservations as "reminders" which most people have never seen nor do they care to see. Too personal perhaps?

Sorry to read about your family and the horrific losses you've had to face.

I hope that some group of idiots out there doesn't decide to start making signs up like this en mass for profit is another fear I have about it. This would only add to the problem created by it. Skinheads would like one I'd bet. UGH.

:(

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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 01:20 PM
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9. Glad it makes you sick - never
forget.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 01:22 PM
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10. yes it makes me sick
Therefore, I refuse to embrace it. That makes sense to me, how about you?

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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 01:26 PM
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12. It embraced me. I was born
in Poland in 1938. Peace.
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 03:20 PM
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13. I was at Auschwitz last week.
I can tell you that the place has a sick power and that the only way to use that power to any positive end is to allow people such as ourselves to be sickened by it.
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Permanut Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 12:26 PM
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6. This sign is one of the enduring symbols
Of the unspeakable, indescribable evil perpetrated during the holocaust. It MUST be preserved as a tangible reminder that these vermin not only extinguished human lives by the millions without hesitation, but made a joke about it in this sign. How sick is that? It serves as a reminder of what humans are capable of doing to one another; perhaps the most perfect symbol of cruelty.

Disclaimer: I'm not Jewish, and I lost no one in the holocaust. This is a historical treasure for all of humanity.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 01:23 PM
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11. Thank you on behalf
of my Father, uncles, friends who perished.
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