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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:19 PM
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Some FBI agents are angered by plan to extend tenure of Director Robert Mueller
Source: The Washington Post

President Obama’s plan to keep FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III in office beyond his 10-year term has triggered an angry reaction among some agents, who say Muel­ler imposed term limits on hundreds of supervisors in the agency but is failing to abide by legal limits set on his own tenure.

The accusations of hypocrisy come as Congress is considering whether to grant Obama’s request to allow Mueller two more years in office — an extension the president said would provide stability as other national security agencies undergo major transitions in leadership.

“We understand the desire for stability,’’ said Konrad Motyka, president of the FBI Agents Association, which is renewing its call for an end to the term-limit policy. “But people are saying, ‘What about my stability?’ It’s ironic that this desire for stability did not apply to supervisors within the FBI.’’

The FBI’s policy, which is unusual among law enforcement agencies, was adopted after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Known as “up or out,’’ it requires FBI supervisors to leave their posts after seven years and compete for other managerial jobs, retire or accept a demotion in the same field office with lower pay.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/some-fbi-agents-are-angered-by-plan-to-extend-tenure-of-director-robert-mueller/2011/05/19/AF76cP7G_singlePage.html
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:26 PM
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1. Why Obama wanted an almost lifetime appointment for Mueller is beyond me
:wtf:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:34 PM
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2. Obama is only asking for two more years for him. But, I worry about another Herbert Hoover
kind of power. Once he's in...we never get rid of him. And, it's not good to change rules like that. Especially since he's a Bush holdover and Obama has a chance to put a new guy in who might be stricter on all the Wall Street Banksters investigations that FBI didn't have manpower to do under Mueller...so Obama could put his own person in to do his own investigations rather than rely on the Bushie Appointee.
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GReedDiamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:48 PM
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4. J Edgar Hoover...nt
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 02:17 PM
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9. whatever. both Hoovers sucked.
Edited on Fri May-20-11 02:17 PM by provis99
on edit: No pun intended. Really.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 06:32 PM
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10. Thanks..forgot the J. Edgar Hoover..so folks thought I was talking about the
former President of "Hoovervilles." :D

Thanks, all for pointing that out.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:46 PM
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3. This must not be allowed.
There is a reason why there are term limits on this position.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 11:15 PM
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5. We don't need "stability". We need a shake up. (nt)
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 11:32 PM
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6. Predictable to the point of becoming tedious. nt
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 05:29 AM
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7. "The FBI’s policy...was adopted after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
Known as “up or out,’’ it requires FBI supervisors to leave their posts after seven years".

Is it me, or does this sound like a Bushco idea to remove anyone with any experience or competence? It just seems like a strange policy.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 08:44 AM
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13. More likely to install cronies.
:shrug:
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:15 AM
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17. You both are right, get ride of people who ask too many questions and put your frat buddys son in.
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JAnthony Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 08:51 AM
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14. Yes, that sounds like a stupid Bush idea. After the FBI invests
years of training into experienced, skilled supervisors, why get only 7 years out of them.

It isn't like police work and service in the best law enforcement agency in the world is EASY and just about ANYBODY can be a good supervisor!!

These people have lots of special training, in areas from forensics to computer science, many who are bi-lingual.

Kick out or demote good supervisors? Which sound business in America would do such a thing?



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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 09:34 AM
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15. I don't get the reasoning behind this either. BUT LET'S PUT IT IN EFFECT FOR CONGRESS! nt.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 10:12 AM
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8. "Some agents"
I wonder how many, and how representative they are.
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 07:34 PM
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11. Whenever I see his name I always think of this quote:
"In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper - either here in the United States, or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere - that mentioned any aspect of the September 11 plot." (April 19, 2002, speech to Commonwealth Club)
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 07:49 PM
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12. What I think of was his willingness to resign if the Presidant did not
modify the TSP. He stood his ground and the changes were made.

But I'll understand if some (not the President) would rather have a more "get along, go along" director.
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dmosh42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 09:52 AM
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16. No demands from our Att'y Gen Holder-no corruption investigations ...
to worry about. Rampant thievery going! No problem!
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:36 AM
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18. Any leader anger "some" of his employees.
not a biggie, IMO.
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