US to store passenger data for 15 years

Source: The Guardian

The personal data of millions of passengers who fly between the US and Europe, including credit card details, phone numbers and home addresses, may be stored by the US department of homeland security for 15 years, according to a draft agreement between Washington and Brussels leaked to the Guardian.

The "restricted" draft, which emerged from negotiations between the US and EU, opens the way for passenger data provided to airlines on check-in to be analysed by US automated data-mining and profiling programmes in the name of fighting terrorism, crime and illegal migration. The Americans want to require airlines to supply passenger lists as near complete as possible 96 hours before takeoff, so names can be checked against terrorist and immigration watchlists.

The agreement acknowledges that there will be occasions when people are delayed or prevented from flying because they are wrongly identified as a threat, and gives them the right to petition for judicial review in the US federal court. It also outlines procedures in the event of anticipated data losses or other unauthorised disclosure. The text includes provisions under which "sensitive personal data" – such as ethnic origin, political opinions, and details of health or sex life – can be used in exceptional circumstances where an individual's life could be imperilled.

The 15-year retention period is likely to prove highly controversial as it is three times the five years allowed for in the EU's PNR (passenger name record) regime to cover flights into, out of and within Europe. A period of five and a half years has just been negotiated in a similar agreement with Australia. Germany and France raised concerns this week about the agreement and the unproven necessity for the measure.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/25/us-to-store-passenger-data

The last thing we want is the US government with our personal details (not that they do not already have these, but this guarantees they do).

pure shite

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As long as it didn't include anything beyond what was recorded for ships carrying immigrants to the US in the old days.

..in dog years?

And the airlines seem to be about the only group of corporate entities who are more than happy to comply with far overreaching government regulations and procedures.

health or race, when I buy an airline ticket!


"The text includes provisions under which "sensitive personal data" – such as ethnic origin, political opinions, and details of health or sex life – can be used in exceptional circumstances where an individual's life could be imperilled".

I have never filled out any forms that asked me about my sex life. Where are they getting this?

You dopes who willingly welcome 'freedom gropes' by the TSA, because it makes you 'feel' safe - this is where your submissiveness and yielding to authority, no matter, what gets us. It's going to get worse. But you cowardly fuckers feel safe, so I guess that's all that matters. :sarcasm:

Boudica the Lyoness

How stupid isen't that, to be asked of details of your sex life.. That is no ones business.. And political wiews are also neither of a governments interest.. As long as you are in US for a holliday, your political wiews, or the lack thereof, are not anyones business.. This smells like the old Soviet union, who aslo could put that questning before you could enter the country..

You know how it goes "as long as you dosen't have anything to hide".. Then everything is "ok".. even if you have to twist your soul upright down for the US security..

Diclotican

WTF is that about? I don't recall having to talk about my sex life while purchasing a ticket, so where is the government getting this data from?

alp227

Wel, there goes my hollyday in the US down the drain, the next couple of years.. I and some friends have poundered about saving up some money, and take a "walkabout" in the US.. Wisit some famous places, rent a "american car" and feel the US as it is shown by popular movies... To explore the US we might belive are still out there.... It would be so nice, to wisit some of your more famous places, and maybe learn betters spoken english..

Oh, wel, we can allways travel to Australia, and visit the cangooroes and other anmials we don't have in Norway or Europe for that matter... Sad, I was looking forward to wisit US, and to discover your amazing country - for my self, with some good friends.. A couple of friends I really trust and know wel.. Or at least as friends can know eatch other.. Even tho the travel time to Australia, at best is 22 hours, versus, 12 hours if travel to Seattle.. Wel, I guess we have to figure this out then;).. Maybe we are doing this even with this "new" thingy..

I just dosen't trust that a government shall keep track at my visa card for 15 year, even tho I Never WOULD be doing anything criminal, thats be in Norway, in Europe, or in the rest of the world.. I accept that US have needs to be protective off their own country. But I belive this to be "some over the top".. I just dosen't like someone to peek over my shoulder, long after I have forgot what I did, when I did it, and why I did it... Many times I don't want to know what I did, when I did it:P Oh, wel, thats life I guess...

This smells not right.. It is smelling more and more like the old Eastern Block country's who also loved to keep an track of everyone and everywhere.. But where eletronic cards and the posibility to control people that was, was not even something they imagined.. A lot of the new tools, who are there to give us a better life.. Give also the authorities the posibility to controll, and to keep and track on mostly everyone they want to keep a track on.. Or, just it to datamine what you do... Even when you are not aware of it yourself.. You can find a lot of interesting information via a credit card controll...

Its sad.. That the US of A is doing this. I can understand, and I respect the fact that US have to protect themselfs agains LEGIMITATE enemies of the contry, That be forreign or native to US..But to keep a tab on everyone, both before you travel to the US, and maybe (posible) also after you was leaving the country.. Thats just wierd.. And even tho many would claim that it just applay for your visit in the US, it can, and WIL be missuesed by your government, down the road.. Somewhere.. The big brother of 1984 is stilling really alive, even if it a long time since "Big Brother" had an all-seeing eye wia the TV.. Or, the fact, that it is a long way since George Orwell was writing the book 1984.. 63 year have the book been.. And it is still really factual, as the style of 1984 or at least elements of it, can be used to keep an eye on everyone with a credit card..

Diclotican

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