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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 08:52 PM
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Marshfield man charged with coming to Madison to kill abortion provider
Source: Wisconsin State Journal

Marshfield man charged with coming to Madison to kill abortion provider

ED TRELEVEN | etreleven@madison.com | 608-252-6134 | Posted: Thursday, May 26, 2011 8:00 pm

A Marshfield man who drove to Madison to kill an abortion doctor faces federal charges after he was arrested Wednesday night when his gun went off in his motel room not far from the Planned Parenthood clinic that he planned to attack Thursday.

Ralph Lang, 63, told a Madison police officer at the Motel 6, 1754 Thierer Road, that he had a gun “to lay out abortionists because they are killing babies,” according to a criminal complaint filed Thursday in U.S. District Court.

Lang said he planned on shooting the clinic’s doctor “right in the head,” according to the complaint. Asked if he planned to shoot just the doctor or nurses, too, Lang replied he wished he “could line them up all in a row, get a machine gun, and mow them all down,” the complaint said.

Teri Huyck, president and CEO of Planned Parenthood of Wisconsin, said the organization’s primary concern “today and everyday” is the health and safety of its patients, staff and volunteers.

Read more: http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime_and_courts/article_5270b430-87e9-11e0-a9e5-001cc4c002e0.html
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 08:56 PM
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1. He sounds like a terrorist
They need to investigate all the organizations that he belongs to..........
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 08:57 PM
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2. I bet he's an atheist...
:eyes:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 08:59 PM
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3. It's so much easier for them to pull a trigger, than to find ways to
give women good jobs so they don't have to look down the road and decide they can't afford to raise a child.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 09:00 PM
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4. This guy sounds like he is a few slices short of a loaf (can I say that?).
Edited on Thu May-26-11 09:01 PM by geckosfeet
Marshfield man charged with coming to Madison to kill abortion provider

According to the complaint, police were called to the motel at 9:51 p.m. on Wednesday after Lang reported to the front desk he had accidentally shot a bullet through his door at the motel and was worried that it might have struck someone in the room across the hall.

Lang told officer Angie Dyer he was going to go to Planned Parenthood when it opened Thursday, find out who the doctor was who performed abortions and shoot the doctor in the head.


OK. He 'accidentally' discharges a gun. Then calls the front desk and TELLS them that he has a gun, that he accidentally discharged it, and that he is worried that he may have shot someone.

THEN,,,, THEN he tells the police that he was purposely and purposefully going to shoot people.

Thankful he is in now off the street. I suspect that he will be found incompetent to stand trial as well as the other guy.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 09:03 PM
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5. I am glad he is in custody. nt
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 09:08 PM
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6. I hope they descend on him and his life like a ton of bricks
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 09:18 PM
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7. Yep, Scott Walker's voting base is at it again!
Not joking, he probably did vote for that scumbag.
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 09:24 PM
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8. But he and his kind are never on a terrorist list so his Religion does not breed terrorists
Non of his terrorist organizations (you know the ones with the hit lists and wanted posters) are anything more than good christian prayer groups and should never be invistagated as terrorist groups or anything.

Why would we wish to impede these morally superior Christian groups?
They are not terrorists but martyrs and should be rexpected and their views accepted.
Or something like that, I am still working out the details of this special double standard.

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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 10:13 PM
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9. ...his gun narced on him.
Edited on Thu May-26-11 10:14 PM by Ellipsis
All the divisive polarization is rearing it's ugly green head.
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 10:50 PM
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10. Feds: Marshfield man planned to kill abortion doctors
Source: Wausau Daily Hearld

MADISON — Federal prosecutors have arrested a Marshfield man who traveled to Madison allegedly planning to kill abortion doctors.

Sixty-three-year-old Ralph Lang was charged Thursday with attempting to injure or intimidate a person who provides reproductive health services.

Authorities say Lang was loading his handgun in a Madison hotel on Wednesday when the gun fired, sending a bullet through the door of his room into the room across the hall. No one was injured.

Madison police responded and arrested Lang for reckless endangerment.

Federal prosecutors say Lang acknowledged to police that he had the gun "to lay out abortionists because they are killing babies."

Read more: http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/article/20110526/WDH0101/305260125/Feds-Marshfield-man-planned-kill-abortion-doctors



This is one SOB who needs to go to prison for the rest of his natural and quite worthless life.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 10:50 PM
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11. A new face of the anti-choice movement
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 10:50 PM
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12. He sounds mentally unwell to me
He sounds deranged to the extent that he may not be criminally responsible for his actions, or even able to be tried.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 10:50 PM
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14. Folks said the same thing about Scott Roeder
And he's in prison now.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 10:50 PM
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15. Then he can have Ed Gein's old room at Mendota
I'm sure it's quite sturdily built.
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 11:27 PM
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19. Oh, no. He's quite responsible.
Religiously insane, yes. But absolutely capable of understanding right and wrong.
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 06:37 AM
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20. Hmmmm
Edited on Fri May-27-11 06:40 AM by Bragi
I'm not wanting to be argumentative, because it's all speculation at this point as far as this particular alleged perpetrator goes, but I find it difficult to imagine a circumstance in which one can be "religiously insane" yet still understand what is right and what is wrong.

Seems to me that a "religiously insane" person would understand what is right and wrong only as processed by their religion-damaged brain. This could lead them to understand that they have an obligation, for e3xample, to kill a particular person because that person violates a god-attributed religious belief that the religious person feels trumps man-made laws.

If that happened, I don't see how a "religiously insane" person could be said to "understand right and wrong" in a way that would make them fit to stand trial and be found responsible for their actions.

Having said that, I doubt any defense attorney would use the "religious insanity" defense in a hyper-religious country like the U.S, as it would ultimately be very difficult for any jury to accept the idea that adherence to the unprovable, and even bizarre, beliefs required for membership in most religions constitutes insanity.
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 06:30 PM
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23. Was Scott Roeder capable of standing trial?
The fact that he had misgivings about doing it the week before indicates he understands right from wrong. He just thought God told him it would be okay to do it.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 10:50 PM
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13. The direction in which the gun was pointing was not the best possible one. -nt
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grilled onions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 10:50 PM
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16. Where Are These People
when insurance gets cut for "babies"...when food programs for formula etc is cut for "babies",when families get forced out of their homes and "babies" have to live in shelters or pick ups or tents in someones back yard? It is amazing how concerned they are to a point and then forget that "babies" are also those who leave the maternity ward.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 11:14 PM
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17. Hopefully, he will find religion and repent

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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 11:21 PM
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18. This man is actually my neighbor - and he's a fundie religious nutcase
When I say nutcase, I mean fucking nutcase. He is what you would call religiously insane. So are/were his mother, most of his 15 siblings, nieces and nephews.

The family is notorious in the area. Ralphie most especially. He came to a meeting of the Marshfield DFA back in 2004 and informed us all, in case we didn't know it, that Howard Dean was a baby-killer. Then proceeded to lecture us on how misguided and sinful we were in supporting him.

Glad to see he's going to spend the rest of his days locked up.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 07:15 AM
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21. Good gawd. Thankfully he will now be in a more appropriate housing situation.
Glad you and your town survived his insanity.
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Heywood J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 07:28 AM
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22. Well, having admitted that he knew right from wrong won't help him.
He admitted that he thought it was right to kill doctors and nurses, potentially patients as well, but wrong to hurt the person in another hotel room. Even if the confession is excluded, his actions point to knowledge that his gun would harm someone if fired. That makes diminished capacity a bit difficult.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 06:35 PM
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24. .. .but attacking clinics and shooting doctors isn't "domestic terrorism" -- !!!
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 06:53 PM
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25. They even get to organize openly in cells with "hit lists" they distribute for terrorist acts
There is no law against these terror cells and I don't even think they pay taxes to have their wanted posters printed out.

They are the one terrorist group that can operate openly with a wink and a nod from our government.

Now if they were the type to blow the whistle on something illegal the government were doing, then they would be "terrorists" without rights or habeas corpus protections.



If they want to ignore it because it is religious people then why the double standard for Muslim crazies?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 06:56 PM
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26. Agree --
they are proteced -- including by the Supreme Court which refused to apply RICO laws

to their terrorism --

The war on women continues -- !!

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