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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 12:00 AM Original message |
Worst ever carbon emissions leave climate on the brink (The Guardian exclusive) |
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napoleon_in_rags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. ALERT: The centralized interventionist model has TOTALLY FAILED. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 03:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 07:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Thanks, I agree, but I think there is going to be quite a bit more death and destruction before |
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napoleon_in_rags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 06:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
69. What bothers me is the sense of getting screwed by distant forces. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
16. Right on! nt |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
29. This is - not will be - a life and death matter. |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 11:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
39. Well, here in WI |
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napoleon_in_rags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #39 |
72. What we need to do is smash the idea that they are "for business" |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 12:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
41. We are depending on elites in government -- millionaires and multi-millionairs to correct |
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napoleon_in_rags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #41 |
71. EXACTLY! And the thing is that fostering dependence empowers the elite. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 03:20 AM Response to Reply #71 |
86. Exactly -- and well said -- !! |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 07:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
73. +1 I've already seen that only decentralized clean energy & food production will work. |
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napoleon_in_rags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. Absolutely, there are clearly different solutions for different areas. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
2. Everyone has to begin to understand there was a 50 year delay in our feeling the effects |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
20. I don't buy it. The earth is more resilient than this if we will seriously |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. Unfortunately, it is true -- |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
67. not so resilient as you'd like to believe |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 08:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
77. The Earth is plenty resilient. The things living on it, not necessarily so much. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 01:19 AM Response to Reply #77 |
85. Exactly correct. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 03:45 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Global Warming has changed weather patterns, wind patterns ... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 03:30 AM Response to Reply #77 |
87. No one can say that the earth will keep turning -- |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
3. Put simply - economic growth correlates to energy use |
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salib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
66. I call BS on that one |
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psychopomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #66 |
81. Why don't you educate us by providing the gist of the book that you recommend |
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Scruffy1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
5. It's past time for action. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:05 AM Response to Reply #5 |
22. Meanwhile Sarah Palin screams "Drill, Baby, Drill." |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #22 |
32. Yes, but 'they' (still) believe in 'their' Rapture. |
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destes (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
6. there is an inexorable ratio between ........ |
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endless october (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
7. meanwhile, another country runs from nuclear: |
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trud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 08:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Germany, a disaster |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Germany is doing the right thing - it's time to phase out nuclear and coal, and phase in renewables. |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
27. Nuclear is subsidized by the taxpayer at EVERY STAGE of the process... |
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Taft_Bathtub (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
51. Please tell me what energy source isn't subsidized |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Please let us know what energy source produces radioactive waste storage |
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Taft_Bathtub (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Thorium runs on waste |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. The thorium fuel cycle still generates radioactive waste |
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Taft_Bathtub (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Keep moving them goal posts! |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Projection is funny, but in this case it is hilarious. |
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Taft_Bathtub (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 07:58 PM Original message |
Ok it's clear you don't want to discuss anything honestly |
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psychopomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 09:00 PM Response to Reply #68 |
82. You have conceded victory in this argument |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. lol...okeedokee |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 08:01 PM Response to Reply #27 |
75. +1 Even Pres. O has swallowed the Koolaid, proposing $36 billion in taxpayer guaranteed loans |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
52. Yeah, because Germany could not possibly be investing heavily on renewables and energy conservation |
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Taft_Bathtub (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. They're also investing heavily in Coal |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 04:29 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Well sure, except they are not |
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Taft_Bathtub (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. How can you post so many wrong things |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 06:57 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. Pssst your link about Germany's coal plants is from 2007 |
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Taft_Bathtub (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 08:23 PM Response to Reply #70 |
78. Again, more lies |
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Taft_Bathtub (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 08:38 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. Also here's a current link that says the same things |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
74. oh, yeah, we've seen how great nukes work at Fukushima, Chernobyl, TMI |
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Kurmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 09:47 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Well, after the problems with Fukushima In Japan , it is understandable. |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
21. Nuclear is NOT the answer. Fukushima should make the point. We |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:07 AM Response to Reply #7 |
23. Germany is leading the way. Note that both conservatives |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
8. But, but, Michele Bachmann says that CO2 is a "harmless gas"! |
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Mosaic (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 08:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I'm not fond of this type of 'Colbert' sarcasm. |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 09:57 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Sorry, what? |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
54. Don't worry.. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #11 |
19. It also doesn't work if it's not authentic, rather than robotic repetition of a pattern . . . |
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Joey Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:20 AM Response to Reply #11 |
28. Get a life, Mosiac. NT |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #11 |
30. Neither am I |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
10. Bush-Cheney presents...How to Succeed at Planet Destruction Without Even Trying |
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The Green Manalishi (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
12. How much can we, as American citizens, really do? |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:08 AM Response to Reply #12 |
24. If America would just lead the way, in the right direction, for a change we could |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
25. We can insist on an end of these DAMNED wars.The carbon footprint of war as bigger than anything |
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phasma ex machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. +1 Let's stop the war machine first. nt |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. Absolutely |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 08:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
76. yeah, how many mpg do the giant tanks and bombers get? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:12 AM Response to Reply #12 |
26. Yes, from what I understand and hear from current travelers |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. But. but, but, the billionaires of the oil & car industries want more billions |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. There are advantages to being older and not having children |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Same here. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #36 |
47. Don't be too sure about that -- |
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The Green Manalishi (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
91. Yep |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
46. Capitalism is suicidal -- |
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Moostache (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
14. Color me unsurprised. |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
31. K&R |
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tranche (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
35. This is really surprising. We're going to hate seeing the numbers if/when the world economy picks up |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
38. Rome is Burning |
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uberblonde (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
42. But the DEFICIT!!!! |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
43. If you read the professional journals |
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Love Bug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
45. Congress responds to report: *crickets* |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
48. Btw, we here in NJ have temps approaching 90 or over in late May--!! |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
49. Waiting for the anti-cap and traders in 3,2,1... |
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dogmoma56 (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
50. i don't know what all the fuss is about, the Earth will fix itself in about 4000 years, but in about... |
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Delphinus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 06:25 AM Response to Reply #50 |
92. Has the Gulf Stream stopped? |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
57. Neither party is taking this seriously. |
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moblsv (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
58. I'm sure something this important will dominate the front pages |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. I flipped plast CNN this morning while turning on my TV to see |
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gauguin57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
59. To quote Country Joe and the Fish ... |
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Corruption Winz (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
65. So.... maybe we get into other forms of fuel now........... n/t |
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blank space (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
84. Have studied this for 25 years |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:48 AM Response to Reply #84 |
89. OK, Mr. Studious, solve the waste storage, financial & safety problems FIRST |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #84 |
90. the PTB seem to be betting on "massive population decline" |
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