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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 01:28 PM
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Judge Junks Suit To Halt "Ground Zero Mosque"
Edited on Wed Jul-13-11 03:03 PM by brooklynite
Source: NY Daily News

Supreme Court Justice Paul Feinman dismissed a suit filed by Firefighter Timothy Brown with the backing of the American Center for Law & Justice, a Washington conservative group.

Feinman ruled that Brown didn't have a leg to stand on legally in his suit that challenged the city's refusal to grant landmark status to 45-47 Park Place, a building several blocks from Ground Zero that once housed a Burlington Coat Factory.

"While the court does not question the sincerity of Mr. Brown's belief that he is an appropriate representative of the many first responders who heroically responded to aid the victims of the 9/11 World Trade Center attacks, he does not, as a matter of law, satisfy the legal test for standing to challenge determination to deny 45-47 Park Place landmark status," Feinman wrote in a 15-page decision.

The suit was seeking to overturn the commission's rejection last August for granting landmark status to the 152-year-old Italian palazzo-style warehouse. Brown's lawyers argued that the building was a monument to 9/11 because it had been pelted with parts from airplanes that flew into the Twin Towers.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2011/07/judge-junks-suit-to-halt-ground-zero-mosque



Something for a conservative group to develop another Presidential candidate "pledge" around...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 01:41 PM
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1. Yes, they are going to waste millions on this symbol.
If they can raise the money, while hundreds of thousands of Muslim refugees are starving in camps in Africa and desperate for donations. How many have drowned trying to cross to Europe?

But it's so much more important to plant a mosque next to a disaster caused by radical Muslims. Prove how peaceful and loving and wonderful the Muslim faith really is. Forget the living.

But I'm sure these are two different issues and there's plenty of money to go around. Be sure to donate to the mosque. It won't affect how many children die.

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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 01:46 PM
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2. ?????
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 01:49 PM
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3. +1 nt
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 02:01 PM
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7. +2
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 02:11 PM
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9. +3 n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 01:51 PM
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 02:18 PM
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13. yep
We do.
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 01:59 PM
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6. Do you apply this standard to other religious groups?
How much money do you think is spent building synagogues and churches across the country--not to mention paying priests, pastors, and rabbis, or purchasing religious paraphernalia?
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 02:02 PM
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8. Or how much is spent by the 'pro-life' groups that could go to children?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 02:14 PM
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10. Why have a Community Center blocks from a disaster site? seriously, wtf is wrong with that?
Edited on Wed Jul-13-11 02:18 PM by uppityperson
Aside from there being another mosque in the area, and aside from it not being "next to a disaster" but blocks away and not within sight, and aside from it being a community center designed to bring people together and not a "symbol", and aside from your hatred of a religion based on some extremists, and aside from your complaint that moderate and liberal muslims wanting to help, aside from all that, nothing wrong with your post at all.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 07:10 PM
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17. Heh, I'm thinking of how idiotic the discussions of this got the last time
The "OMG GROUND ZERO MOSQUE!" contingent here seemed to come to a general consensus that a Muslim anything built anywhere in New York City was too close to it.

(Considering most of the same crowd were claiming the Sufi behind the center is a secret Wahabbist, I can't exactly put that on DU's list of finest hours.)
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 02:15 PM
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11. They're in a race with the Catholics.
Edited on Wed Jul-13-11 02:17 PM by sudopod
God is keeping count on who builds the best buildings.

It's 50% of the final grade.

The Subgeniuses are also in the race. They are planning on adding a pipe to the face on Mars, so that the universe can witness the wisdom of Bob and become party to the glory of slack. They plan to get started on it tomorrow.

I trust that God will know who loves Him most.
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trud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 06:11 PM
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14. bigotry
Ah, yes. So peace-loving Muslims are responsible for the actions of other Muslims. I guess that means I'm responsible for the actions of "Christians" who go around murdering doctors who perform abortions,

Wow, can you spell bigotry? Do you apply those standards to non-Muslim groups? How about no synagogues while Israel is grinding the Palestinians into dust? No churches while that Christian nation, the U.S., is blowing up civilians left and right in other countries?

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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 01:56 PM
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5. Why does your link go to the rules for posting in LBN page?
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 02:15 PM
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12. Rules on "standing" usually work against us, but now the RW gets a taste
Edited on Wed Jul-13-11 02:16 PM by Jim Lane
The community center should be allowed to go forward, but I'd feel better if the court had thrown out the suit on its merits, rather than on standing.

Suppose that someone planning a Hall of Conservative Heroes wanted to demolish an old building that, in many preservationists' eyes, clearly qualified for landmark status. Suppose further that a right-wing-dominated landmarks board had refused to landmark the building because it ardently favored the construction of a tribute to Herbert Hoover, Oliver North, etc. The decision on Park 51 would be a precedent that blocks nonpolitical preservationists from challenging such a politically motivated decision.

As a lawyer who's litigated environmental cases, where standing is often an obstacle to the environmentalists with no direct economic stake in a project, I can't be completely happy about this result.
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trud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 06:13 PM
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15. I'm all for historic preservation
but as I understand it, that building has bupkus historic value.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 06:52 PM
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16. You're right about that particular building.
My point is that, based on the linked article, the decision wasn't on the merits of this particular landmarking decision, but was on standing. That would mean that even a politically motivated decision to allow the destruction of an important building could not be challenged in court.
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