Obama Presses Skeptical Dem Leaders On Big Deal With Boehner

Source: Talking Points Memo

Obama Presses Skeptical Dem Leaders On Big Deal With Boehner
Brian Beutler | July 21, 2011, 1:26PM

A Congressional aide briefed on ongoing negotiations between House Speaker John Boehner and President Obama says the two principals may be nearing a "grand bargain" on to raise the debt limit which would contain large, set-in-stone spending cuts but only the possibility of future revenue increases.

"All cuts," the aide said. "Maybe revenues some time in the future."

The status of negotiations has Democratic aides on both sides of the Capitol
nervous and unhappy. And the notion that the impasse over the debt limit may be nearing an end is sparking denials from both the White House and Boehner's office -- in part, perhaps, because neither side has buy-in from their parties on a consensus plan.

A White House spokesman called the claims from aides "not credible" -- the result of having a "3rd hand version of the facts."

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K&R

(Off what's left of our carcasses) He's worse than bush. with bush, you knew what you were getting going in. obama lied. he's worse in his own way than the other for me. I hope the senate and house have a pair because if this shit goes through obama will be no better than nothing to me. spin this. I dare you.

he is worse than Bush. We united and opposed Bush. Obama has divided us so he's getting away with extreme RW legislation that BushCo could only dream of.

Really, we DID get carried away with ourselves...

Expecting basic health care and a roof over our heads.

We will be better off if we only have SURVIVAL to worry about!

I guess they'll have to follow all of our money over to India and China.

All cuts, with revenue maybe sometime in the future.

Grow a pair.

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All else is just theater for what he considers his nowhere-else-to-go "base." But it's really a "nowhere-to-go" base. Goodbye, president asshole.

I WILL NOT even think about voting for a greedy, sociopathic, ayn randian repug. I know exactly who got us into this mess and now I know why. I'll be voting for those who are pro-labor, pro-people over the corrupt wall street gang. Why would people even think about voting for any repug after what they've done to us?

:shrug:

Even I find it hard to swallow that 150 million people are THAT stupid.

Gotta a link?

<http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/07/11/press-conference-president>

"And let me just, Ben, comment on this whole issue of tax increases, because there's been a lot of information floating around there. I want to be crystal clear -- nobody has talked about increasing taxes now. Nobody has talked about increases --increasing taxes next year. What we have talked about is that starting in 2013, that we have gotten rid of some of these egregious loopholes that are benefiting corporate jet owners or oil companies at a time where they're making billions of dollars of profits. What we have said is as part of a broader package we should have revenues, and the best place to get those revenues are from folks like me who have been extraordinarily fortunate, and that millionaires and billionaires can afford to pay a little bit more -- going back to the Bush tax rates.

And what I've also said to Republicans is, if you don't like that formulation, then I'm happy to work with you on tax reform that could potentially lower everybody's rates and broaden the base, as long as that package was sufficiently progressive so that we weren’t balancing the budget on the backs of middle-class families and working-class families, and we weren’t letting hedge fund managers or authors of best-selling books off the hook.

That is a reasonable proposition. So when you hear folks saying, well, the President shouldn’t want massive, job-killing tax increases when the economy is this weak -- nobody is looking to raise taxes right now. We're talking about potentially 2013 and the out-years. In fact, the only proposition that's out there about raising taxes next year would be if we don't renew the payroll tax cut that we passed in December, and I'm in favor of renewing it for next year as well. But there have been some Republicans who said we may not renew it."

I hope Dems in Congress will just say no.

but FUCK NO!

SKEPTICAL DEMS KNOW THAT IF YOU MAKE A DEAL WITH A BONER, YOU ARE BOUND TO GET SCREWED.

all angry emotions when we don't know what the facts are...this is must see TV....hahaha...okay, go on and continue with the hyperspeculation....you guys crack me up!

empathy it makes me want to :puke: Senior citizens and those barely hanging on by their fingernails don't find President Spineless the Caving Wonder and his Catfood Deficit Reduction/Tax Breaks for the Wealthy bipartisan plan very funny.

This is the bread and butter of the new DU.

...note, the White House aide did not deny the reports, just said they were "not credible". It's a classic non-denial denial.

We shall see.

one of us and he has no spine, no balls need I go on.

we can state our opinions on what we should have done.
Still full of hope are you ? Well, good for you.:smoke:

We're supposed to follow His example and look forward no matter what. We're not even allowed to point out that a bill or politician He endorsed kind of sucked. We're supposed to cheer for Him and His every victory, no matter what His victory costs the poor and middle class.

false.

Just did. I hope enough Congressional Dems are "infuriated" and will stand up to the President and the Boner.

It's just that the burden of paying for the default will be entirely on the shoulders of middle class and poor Americans -- and on our infrastructure.

The lights will go out in America if this is allowed to take place.

I mean your electricity.

Because many Americans will not have the money to pay the electric bill.

All cuts and maybe some revenue increases in the future??? I am so sick and tired of being sold out by professional uber-wealthy politicians.

This SUCKS and I hope to God its not true.

Let' hope the denials are accurate... but after all these months... nothing would surprise me.

And HELL NO to the GOPT "solution."

and are making damn sure no one else gets any.

I'm moving to France.

:banghead:

...cuts to Social Security are coming then the Paul Ryan Plan will be severely weakened as a campaign issue for the Democrats.


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..cuts to Social Security are coming then we can kiss 2012 and beyond goodbye.

There is no reason any Democratic president should budge on this.

That's where we're headed. Those who defend Obama at all costs will continue to do so even though it's now clear he's willing to toss Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid overboard. Actually, that may have been apparent when he appointed Alan Simpson cochair of the Catfood Commission.

Me, I've gone as far in my support as I intend to go. Checkbook closed in 2012.

Funny how no one dares to mention the $10 Billion per month we are spending on ME War.

It hurts to think... what just one month of war money would do if spent here at home... it boggles the mind.

I can't believe Senior Citizens (of both parties) are going to take an $1800 per year cut in SS and remain quiet.

that I'm now calling him Kevin. (Sorry to all the Kevins reading this.

Holy fuck.

@KeithOlbermann
Keith Olbermann
On Countdown @DavidShuster reports Budget Director describes Means test, upped eligibility age for Medicare, adjusted COLA for Soc. Sec
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@KeithOlbermann
Keith Olbermann
On Countdown @SenatorSanders says Budget Director did NOT go into that much detail, but of what he's hearing "Sorry Mr. President, no deal."
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@DavidShuster
David Shuster
Apologies for botching the word "specificity" on TV. ugh. Still, dems maintain WH fine with means testing medicare, adjusting SS cola.

"...set-in-stone spending cuts but only the possibility of future revenue increases."

....let me get this straight, the Republican tax breaks are in a 'lock-box' and our Social Security and Medicare are going to be gutted?

"All cuts," the aide said. "Maybe revenues some time in the future."

....at what point does the actions of the Prez make him a Republican?....

..like George W. Bush. :P