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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 07:02 PM Original message |
Facebook's Randi Zuckerberg: Anonymity Online 'Has To Go Away' |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
1. The NSA and DHS hate, HATE anonymity on-line, and would criminalize it, if we let them |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
50. Yep. |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. As a woman, Randi Z. should be familiar with "creeping" |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
58. I don't think she knows anything about the internet. |
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Morizovich (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 04:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
70. I'm not even sure she's a human! |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
3. he just wants to eff u out of more money by marketing everything about you. |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
4. wait...hasn't much of this bullying taken place on Facebook? |
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Curmudgeoness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
5. Skinner, don't listen to them!!!! |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. Fuck off, you benificiary of nepotism. |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
7. Untrue, I've read PLENTY of nasty, bigoted, hateful posts by people using their real names |
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Tikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
8. I joined Facebook...Joined a Charles Darwin group, an Atheists group and a married.... |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 08:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. lol i never get those emails despite having facebook for 3 yrs, maybe they go straight to trash |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
72. Why would you use your primary e-mail account? |
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Muskypundit (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
9. This is more than a little creepy. |
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Evasporque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 07:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. JSonline experimented with facebook comments on articles |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 12:02 AM Response to Reply #9 |
25. If nothing were anonymous, then bullies would go after people, find them |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 04:31 AM Response to Reply #25 |
40. CRUCIAL point! Zuckerberg and Schmitt's stated concerns about cyberbullying are Orwellian |
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Incitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 01:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
28. Exactly. Psychopaths, stalkers and rapists would love to be able |
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freshwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 01:16 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Can you imagine what the Norway shooter would have done with more addresses? |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 03:05 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. It cuts both ways |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 07:07 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. True, with online privacy cyberbullies can hide, and interest groups can post lies. |
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Incitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:43 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Then you have the issue of potential employers reading everything you post on the Internet. |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. Great point!! And any idiot HR flunkie would be able to attach google hits for your ID |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. Trust me |
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Incitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. Nobody knows who I am here. |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Neither does anyone else |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. Shell corporate IDs are not equivalent to personal IDs. That's the main fallacy in your |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 02:18 AM Response to Reply #60 |
69. True enough |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 12:13 PM Response to Reply #37 |
54. I figure DU has my real name. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 11:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
68. This is garbage, the powerful will cover up their tracks |
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Evasporque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
10. I agree..the RW trolls hide behind it.. |
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tpsbmam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
12. Oh bullshit. I'm on FB only for political stuff.....and used a totally |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
13. This is why I quit FB last year. |
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cprise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
14. An antidote to Randi Zuckerberg: |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
15. They don't need your name to target you with ads. |
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Dawson Leery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
16. Never post personal/private information online. |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
18. What about trading anonymity? |
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Harry J Asslinger (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
19. "Better behavior without anonymity" |
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Ninjaneer (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
61. Excellent point. n/t |
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harvey007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
20. Anonymity protects free speech |
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corpseratemedia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
21. people can know who you are and you'll get bullied online anyway |
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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
22. Hogwash... |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
23. New Twitter has already given away my identity. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 06:57 AM Response to Reply #23 |
42. Out of curiosity, how did that happen? |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
24. Wow! More than one sociopath in the same gene pool. What are the odds? n/t |
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nebenaube (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 07:40 AM Response to Reply #24 |
44. Probably just a group-think victim. n/t |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
26. While I agree that trolls and the like would be almost nonexistent without |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
27. Facebook, especially, is invasive and unrelenting. |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #27 |
76. You and me both... |
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Incitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
29. I don't even see how this is possible. |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
31. Everybody wants a picture ID. |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
32. Would close down DU IMO. nt |
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prete_nero (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
33. wrong! |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 01:54 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Why not just let each web operator make the rules for his site? |
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Incitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 02:04 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Zuckerberg and Schmidt are not talking about just FB and Google. |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
59. Because something like this would probably have to be enforced |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 01:59 AM Response to Original message |
35. Anti-American? unpatriotic? yep. |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 03:18 AM Response to Original message |
38. When our government demonstrates an ability to respect and obey the law... |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #38 |
47. I agree with you that anonymity is necessary and protected, but voting... |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 03:28 AM Response to Original message |
39. Never bothers me posting a photo of myself |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:52 AM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Lookout! |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #39 |
51. hi, Ted Kennedy look-alike! n/t |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
66. Too cute!!! |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 05:41 AM Response to Original message |
41. they are right. anonymity leads to much immoral behavior |
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Ninjaneer (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
62. You know what else leads to "much immoral behavior" in some people? |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. while your smart-ass response sounds cool, anonymity and de-individualisation |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 11:02 PM Response to Reply #41 |
67. and open identities enable stalking and employer prejudice. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #67 |
71. absolutely. we have a right to privacy and imo that extends to maintaining |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #41 |
73. Tell that to DUer Cali. She said something about an anonymous customer and lost her job over it. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. i am not debating the merits of allowing people to be anonymous |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
48. Given an anonymous forum... |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
49. Ugh, I can't stand Facebook. No idea why I even have an account. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
52. They're attacking political websites, without anonymity corporations and corrupted government |
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KeepItReal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
53. Doesn't she owe her paycheck to FB selling personal information of users to companies |
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klook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
65. Yeah, let's all just get RFID chips implanted |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
74. Yeah, but we still don't know who's funneling money to the GOP through the US CoC... |
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