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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 05:25 PM
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Reuters: GOP Debt Bill Passes the House, 20 No Votes by GOP, Not a Single Yes Vote from House Dems
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 05:46 PM by Hissyspit
Source: Reuters

Reuters: GOP debt bill passes the House, 17 no votes by GOP, not a single yes vote from House democrats, live coverage here: http://reut.rs/pRxxEy

The final count was 218 votes in favor and 210 against.
by Stella Dawson 6:26 PM

Republican bill passes, opening path to debt deal
By Andy Sullivan and Kim Dixon
WASHINGTON | Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:36pm EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The House of Representatives approved a Republican plan to cut the budget deficit on Friday that is doomed to defeat in the Senate but which could pave the way for a bipartisan compromise to avert a U.S. debt default.

With time running short ahead of a Tuesday deadline, Republicans pushed their deficit-cutting plan through by a vote of 218-to-210 after the leadership reworked the bill to win over anti-tax conservatives in their ranks.

The Republican legislation, sharply criticized by President Barack Obama, faces certain death in the Democratic-controlled Senate, where all Democrats have vowed to vote against it later on Friday.

But the passage of the bill breaks weeks of political inertia and opens the door to talks on a compromise that could pass Congress before Tuesday, after which the government says it will be unable to pay all of its bills without a deal.

Read more: http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE7646S620110729?irpc=932
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 05:27 PM
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1. Next we'll hear Boehner claim it was a "bipartisan" effort...
...and not get called on it by whatever idiotic "news" person is interviewing him.

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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 05:28 PM
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3. A landslide, I tells ya! A mandate! nt
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 05:45 PM
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6. Someone tell Mr. Boehner that "bipartisan" doesn't mean twice as partisan
But it appears he has saved his job this week by passing a futile and meaningless bill. Raises for everyone!
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 06:15 PM
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12. Haha - never thought of that. It explains a lot of his behavior and commentary. nt
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 06:50 PM
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15. Yup!
...and along those lines, Andrea Mitchell today said something about, usually they can pin point
names of those that are causing the real problems BUT it seems that BOTH sides will be held responsible for this entire mess.

What a load of crap!

Even before the vote, the "lame" media was already trying to cover for the PeeParty Members and spread
the damage to the Dems.

...makes me so MAD!
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:10 PM
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16. My buns it'll be called bipartisan... it'll be tabled by the Senate n/t
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 08:22 PM
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31. I was talking about Boehner's habit of lying...
...and it would not surprise me in the least were he to make that claim.

Of course it's dead now anyway, RIP, LOL!
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:10 PM
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17. sorry 4 the dupe n/t
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 07:10 PM by RoccoR5955
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TrollBuster9090 Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:18 PM
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19. No bipartisan support. Immitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
The Democrats learned from the masters during the health care bill debate. When you can't justify any other reason why a bill should never become law, you can always get every single one of your minority guys to vote against it and then claim you shouldn't pass it because it doesn't have "bipartisan support."

The GOP should be proud of teaching the Dems that nasty little trick.

Next the Dems will be claiming Boehner's bill is "too long," and that it didn't include the dumbass little quote from the constitution in the preamble, proving it's what the Founding Fathers would have wanted to do. And what happened to Boehner's pledge to let all legislation be available to read for three days before voting on it?
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 05:27 PM
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2. here's a Huffington Post Link
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/29/john-boehner-debt-ceiling-bill-vote_n_913723.html
Boehner Debt Bill Passes House, Heads To Likely Defeat In Senate
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 05:38 PM
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4. Will be DOA in Senate. n/t
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:29 PM
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21. Or, it will be gutted and reassembled as our own....
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 07:36 PM by sofa king
This is one of my favorite legislative tricks. You let them pass their shit bill in the House, take it into the appropriate Senate committee, add an amendment that says, "strike all after 'Section 1' and replace with...," put your own bill in its place, and pass that as the "amended House bill."

Then, you drag those bastards into the conference committee and force 'em to either vote against their "own bill," or work out something more reasonable. The original version goes straight to the grave and is almost impossible to resurrect. The public and the press isn't real good at explaining the ruse, or even spotting it, so the other guys get screwed whichever way they turn.

(This is a necessarily condensed version which is automatically incorrect in many details and totally lacking in the subtlety which marks a truly successful bait-and-switch, but I swear it works. I saw some variant of it every week for years.)


Edit: Well, looks like that ain't gonna happen. The Senate just killed it dead, as you guessed. So much for my ace legislative analyst skills.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 08:05 PM
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28. Hopefully. nt
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 05:44 PM
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5. Would love to see where those No Republican votes
were from. My bet is that they weren't newly elected Teabag Repubs and probably from long time districts in the NE.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 05:51 PM
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8. Rather the opposite....
Teabagging freshmen without the advantages of incumbency would be less able to stare their constituents down come next year. They would need the cover, and the 'true believer' cred.

On a whipped party-line vote the long-service, non-insane non-Confederate representatives are where you start, not where you finish. The Party means something to them.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 05:52 PM
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9. here you go
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 05:53 PM by uppityperson
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1607993&mesg_id=1607993

Amash-MI
Bachmann-MN
Broun-GA
Chaffetz-UT
Cravaak-MN
Desjarlais-TN
Duncan-SC
Gowdy-SC
Graves-GA
Huelskamp-KS
Johnson-IL
Jordan-OH
King-IA
Latham-IA
Mack-FL
McClintock-CA
Mulvaney-SC
Paul-TX
Scott-SC
Southerland-FL
Walsh-IL
Wilson-SC
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 06:13 PM
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11. Mack is my Naples, Fl. rep
He's been around for a long time. Maybe all the SENIORS here in retirement paradise blasted his phone lines.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 06:44 PM
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14. teabagger walsh in illinois is behind on child support
johnson is one of the saner and older republicans in illinois.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:22 PM
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20. and of cooooourse...Mr. Limited Government himself RON PAUL
and the potential 45th president Michele Bachmann

and yeah i see a bunch of Tea Party first-termers
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 05:49 PM
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7. Will the Senate take it up tonight?
Seemed like they were ready and waiting last night, before Boehner delayed.

I hope there's no cave for this nightmare of a bill. Amazes me that it left the house, but at least some Republicans voted against (granted, many because they're nuts or seek political self-preservation).
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 08:07 PM
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29. Even some GOP'rs shot it down in the Senate. Bill was DOA.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 05:58 PM
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10. yea Democrats and the 20 goppers
now that's bipartisanship. Thanks Hissy. Did you see Boehner talking earlier about putting his neck out..lol It's about to get chopped off by the Senate
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ensemble Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 06:24 PM
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13. Boner:
"I stuck my neck out a mile to try to get an agreement with the President of the United States..."

We have a Democratic majority Senate and President, and his bill gets ZERO Democratic votes in the House, and he calls it "sticking his neck out".

What a load. His bill that would never pass the Senate couldn't get enough teabagger votes, so he turns FARTHER RIGHT,
to get more teabagger votes. Pure CYA.


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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:10 PM
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18. Solidarily and Democratics, mixing together?
:wtf:
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:29 PM
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22. Tabled in the Senate at about 8:30 p.m. EDT...
That must be record speed for them!
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NICO9000 Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:30 PM
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23. I'm amazed all the Dems stuck together on this
Glad to see it happen, though.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 08:08 PM
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30. Me too. I am giving them a lot of credit on doing that. Now they need to stick together until
the end of this.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:42 PM
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24. I don't understand. Dems not voting for a plan that passed is some kind of win?
What kind of low bar is that? Even I didn't expect the Dems to vote for Boehner's plan in the first place. And the 20 Repubs who voted nay are even worse than Boehner making him look like the reasonable middle. I personally didn't expect it to pass at all and I find it unsettling.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:57 PM
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26. It won't pass the Senate
This was and is more of the same game. Terrorize because you can. Republicans and Teabaggers are terrorists and you don't negotiate with terrorists. Yes, this is a win, because the Democrats in the House understand and stood firm against the terrorists.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:55 PM
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25. No negotiating with terrorists
Good on ya Dems. May your esteemed leader in the White House follow your lead.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 08:04 PM
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27. This is ridiculous. nt
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 08:45 PM
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32. That shit was not going to pass the senate....nt
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mascarax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:01 PM
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33. Kudos to Nancy Pelosi - she held all together (even Heath Shuler!)
So they couldn't say it was bipartisan...

Of course, the crazy continues with Mitch McConnell and company.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:35 PM
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34. That's not enough GOP votes (in the no's) to
pass the reconciled bill from the Senate, even with all the Dems. We need 28 I think it was. And this article can't make up it's mind rather it was 17 or 20 no from GOP.
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