Iraqi Newspapers DO NOT print Abu Grhaib photos (CNN)

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/01/iraq.prisoner.reax/index.html

Arabs repulsed, furious over prison photos
Saturday, May 1, 2004 Posted: 2:22 PM EDT (1822 GMT)

(CNN) --

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Newspapers across the Arab world ran the photographs of U.S. soldiers humiliating hooded, naked detainees at Abu Ghraib prison on their front pages. Newspapers in Iraq did not carry the photos.

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"The irony of it is that Saddam Hussein never really held a banner of spreading freedom...He was an autocratic ruler, a dictator, a repressive ruler, whatever you want to call him. It was expected to witness such atrocities under his rule," he said, according to the Reuters report.

In one of the images broadcast on "60 Minutes II" a person who appears to be a female soldier is seen with a hooded, naked prisoner.
"But to have the American soldiers supposedly bringing freedom and democracy and the American way of life to this part of the world, spreading this kind of shameful misconduct, that is an irony that to my taste is very sickening," he said, according to Reuters.

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Iraqis saw the images of abuse via television. Iraq's major newspapers, including those at odds with the U.S.-led occupation, did not publish the photographs, which have been splashed across the pages of Saturday's European publications.

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who appears to be a female soldier

Typical disinformation slight of hand designed to weaken the reader's belief in the veracity of the incident. We know the woman's name; there's no "appears", there's only the "is."

OF "HE'S GETTING HARD" FAME

Wisdom said:
SFC Snider grabbed my prisoner and threw him into a pile. . . . I do not think it was right
to put them in a pile. I saw SSG Frederic, SGT Davis and CPL Graner walking around the
pile hitting the prisoners. I remember SSG Frederick hitting one prisoner in the side of its
ribcage. The prisoner was no danger to SSG Frederick. . . . I left after that.
When he returned later, Wisdom testified:
I saw two naked detainees, one masturbating to another kneeling with its mouth open. I
thought I should just get out of there. I didn’’t think it was right . . . I saw SSG Frederick
walking towards me, and he said, ““““Look what these animals do when you leave them
alone for two seconds.”””” I heard PFC England shout out, ““““He’’’’s getting hard"

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THE LOVELY LYNNDIE AND FIANCEE ABOVE

(NOTE MALE GENITALIA OBSCURED TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN)

After all, there have been numerous reports about abuses and humilations by coalition troops. Why should they add more pain to their fellow citizens by showing their humilation in print? How will the victims of such an abuse feel when they see themselves on every frontpage?

Plus the sex/nudity angle poses problems for them, publishing-wise.

Or an event of that nature. Embarrassing the U.S. military has not been a healthy option for the press (of many nations) in occupied Iraq.

You may have a point about sparing people humiliation, although the fact that the victims all have bags on their heads should ameliorate this.

but has just left the gate and is running down the track.

It should be no surprise that the Iraqi newspapers are not publishing "the pictures". Look at what they did to al Sadr after he published articles that the CPA thought "might be inflamatory". What paper in Iraq would dare risk the "dead or ground into the dirt" options offered by the coalition of "liberators". No wonder "they hate us for our freedom" Look at how we exercise our freedon: the freedom to dominate, subjugate, humiliate, rape, torture, kill, steal.................at will. I would be fighting back too if I was in their shoes. We should get out NOW.

...is that, despite the blurry pics, and hoods, since most families are aware of who is and is not detained, and all of the prisoners might not be dead yet, the newspapers were trying to avoid further humiliating those tortured in their home towns...

big difference, its possable that they want to just cannot because of fears of being shut down or worse. Another angle to think about is its possable that they were asked not to run photos because of the danger it would bring to an already unstable environment.

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Even after seeing JUST SOME of the pictures.

The Iraqis don't NEED the pictures.

They've seen their sons, daughters, parents, friends etc. blown to pieces, shot by snipers, buried in hasty graves, delimbed and abused for over a year at the hands of their "liberators".

All they have to do is THINK what goes on in those prisons.

They know.

(sigh)

Good Insightful Post

The Chimpanzee can't understand why a people whose countrymen and women are abused like this--- would not want to "BRING IT ON"