Bush To Address Arabs On Abuse

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/30/iraq/main614905.shtml

"(CBS/AP) President Bush's national security adviser said Bush "will speak directly to the Arab world," and a White House official said the president might do interviews with Arab television to underscore his feelings about photographs of naked prisoners and gloating U.S. soldiers. "

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My opinion: This man speaks only to his conservative base.

My prediction: In his speaches to "the Arabs" you will hear codewords conveying his real messageto his real audience.

against the people he kills and tortures.

...and he reminds us of it all the time.

President Bush plans to give 10 minute interviews on the abuse of prisoners in the Abu Ghraib detention facility in Iraq to both the Al Hurra and the Al Arabyia television networks(one of which is US Run Al Arabyia, Fox of Iraq!) from the Map Room BEFORE he does the event of the day - the RNC gala fundraiser in Washington.

To cut into a Fundraiser must mean it is important to someone important to Bush - perhaps an oil company or two?

i hope he does address them as such.

qualties. Oh wait, that's OUR media handing us the BS, their media might have a different spin.

I pity the translators.

:wtf:"I mentioned early on that I recognize there are hurdles, and we're going to achieve those hurdles.":wtf:

Even the bush-to-english translation looks like it's gone through Taiwan and Germany along the way.

and raise you a Post-Event Revision.

:P

We are used to the WH translating the spin they want us to hear. Bush speaks with 5% solids (BS) and 95% hot air (pheeeuuu)!

He's "bilingual", ya know. He told us himself. Not sure if his second language is English or something else, but he's bilingual.

speak with forked tongue.

Until the very end of the interview, Graham had not mentioned Bush, and was quite strong in his demand for people being fired, court-martialed, etc., re. the prison abuse. But there's a pattern here -- protect, protect, protect, and insulate, the almighty W from any responsibility or blame. If Bush is so troubled, why doesn't he get off the campaign bus, go back to the WH, and DO SOMETHING!

in his regime? I think the quote is from "Notes on Nationalism".

Abuse of potential "terrorists" or even citizens doesn't bother this guy in the least.

You took the words right out of my mouth.

Scott McClellan, ever Bush's defender said on Friday of last week, "he's known about it for some time".

A little faux pas? Bush's press secretary here is confessing that this creep knew about the torture A YEAR AGO.

Of course, he did nothing. Most people may have missed this little disclosure, but not me. I got it.

If so, please post it in GD, so we can try to get the info out there --

The people who leaked the photos will probably get punished worse than those being punished in the pictures.

The people who ordered it will simply get lawyers and the WH will wait for this to blow over.

If it is contracters I wonder if they will charge the US taxpayer for their lawyer fees too.

Furious that they took pictures. Furious that they couldn't hold back the story of this fiasco until November 10.

That is the "French-Canadian made campaign bus". We need to hammer this point home again and again. I would like to see the "French-Canadian campaign bus" turn into the Dean Scream.

Brightened my morning, actually! Even with this MOST miserable cold I have right now.

FRENCH-Canadian! OOOOOOH, man, do we need to repeat that one!

Okay. Now, I know the man NEEDS anti-psychotic medication!!!

Seriously, my guess is that this FAKE demonstration of compassion is a right-wing Rove thingy directed to impact the American people.

Whaddya' think? :bounce:

If you remember the thousands of people in the streets were just a "focus group". He don't care what you think. He don't care what I think. He don't care whatthe world thinks. He takes his orders directly from that higher power up there.

Haven't the Iraqi people suffered enough already at the hands of Boosh? Where, or where, has his compassion gone? Err, oh, yeah! He never had any!

Since the only acceptable response is a heartfelt apology, of which he is totally incapable, and the firing of all senior officers, plus Rumsfeld, Wolfie, and Feith, and public trials of every soldier and civilian involved in any of these acts, there's no hope that this will do anything but make matters much, much worse.

n/t

:nuke:

Ladies and gentlemen of Iraq, let me start by apologizing to you for invading your country and killing approximately 25 000 of your innocents We tried to steel your resources and settle some old scores. In this attempt we have failed
Today I have received, and accepted resignations from V.P. Dick Cheney, S.O.S. Colin Powell, and Paul Wolfowitz.
I have ordered the immediate withdrawal of American force from the Persian Gulf region and have ended support for Israel under Ariel Sharon.
Further I have asked congress to set aside 3 trillion dollars for reparations for your pain and suffering.
Members of congress are actively seeking my impeachment and I welcome that. Perhaps the ultimate sacrifice that so many of your people have suffered defending yourselves from our vicious assault on your nation will be honored when I am made an example of in an international court of justice.
I pledge to aid any investigation and would like to offer tonight my resignation to show the people of the world that in America we lead by example and every man and women is responsible for there actions.
As someone famous once say. "The buck stops here"
Thank you and god bless America

,...a helluva better than what is being dished out now, huh!!!!

on edit (sorry)

WELCOME TO DU!!!

:hi:

:kick:

I hope you will feel a sense of belonging here.

O8)

And here I thought massacre was something that upset you.

As do ALL people.

Compromise is on the table as long as the common pursuit of justice is respected.

I am sick of doing some "us" versus "them" bullshit. Why can't we do a "us" for "us" project?

Somehow I don't see a massacre of Israelis as the first consequence of the U.S. withdrawing diplomatic and financial support from Sharon.

Your letter of apology matches mine very closely from another thread.

Welcome to DU, by the way, and a very good 2nd post!

:party:

:smoke:

for others to read. It was what we would all love to hear. Cross all fingers and toes.

Just the sight of * will make any sane person's blood boil just about now. How many MORE terrorist has this foolish man child created in the past several days? :(

those photos very accurately reflect the Bush regime's attitudes not only towards Iraq but towards the rest of the world.

It is exactly what we'd expect from Fox News watchers set loose with defenseless foreigners.

The rest of the world is very aware of this and nothing Bush says will change it.

This "apology" is not aimed at the base. It's aimed at swing voters, another bullshit attempt to sell Bush as something other than the hateful extremist he really is.

Before the days of integration--by God we knew how to discipline those DARKIES.

From E-Bay nostalgia



From LIFE Magazine -- A little bit of Indiana hospitality on a hot dark night. The parents of those who support the chimp recall happier times--- No busing, no quotas, no bullshit politically correct nonsense




Lynching 1930

A mob of 10,000 whites took sledgehammers to the county jail house doors to get at these two young blacks accused of raping a white girl; the girl’s uncle saved the life of a third by proclaiming the man’s innocence. Although this was Marion, Ind., most of the nearly 5,000 lynchings documented between Reconstruction and the late 1960s were perpetrated in the South. (Hangings, beatings and mutilations were called the sentence of “Judge Lynch.”) Some lynching photos were made into postcards designed to boost white supremacy, but the tortured bodies and grotesquely happy crowds ended up revolting as many as they scared. Today the images remind us that we have not come as far from barbarity as we’d like to thinks

On Edit : The sarcasm of this post is meant to be outrageous.

a photograph, in fact. A few, actually. Including the smiles and the pointing finger. There even was a pointy hood in one of those more recent photos, as I recall.

Now, WHAT was that, anyway?

Lemme think...

(response equally steeped in sarcasm)

... and our brave pilot is going to "talk" his way out of it.

like he speaks Mexican with Pres. Fox?

that is all he knows.

Maybe he'll do it in Spanish.

... if he used the time to commit seppuku.

Short of that, I think you're bang on the money. This is just a chance for Bush and his constituency to indulge in a feelgood round of Let's Pretend, imagining for a moment that there's anything of the America-on-paper actually left in their hearts, before they get back to the business of committing, funding, or encouraging human atrocities.

The only point I'd disagree with is that it's not just the conservatives in his base. I suspect Bush enjoys the support of a large bloc of apolitical Americans -- those who take the heroic justice-and-liberty America of grade school history books for granted, and trust to America's Americaness to keep it out of trouble. His biggest ally isn't the corporate money, the military-industrial complex, or the conservative hate machine; it's cognitive dissonance, the deep-seated (arguably pathological) belief in most Americans that the worst things simply can't happen here, because they really really don't want them to have happened. Those people will listen to the speech, and let it lull them back into their false sense of security. See, it's just an isolated thing -- a few bad apples in the barrel, not like you have evil people running your government, go back to sleep ...

who need to believe it can't happen here. Maybe they'll vote for Bush, maybe they'll stay home or write in McCain (a friend at work, ex-marine from the Vien Nam era who voted for Bush last time, was pulling for Kerry, but now they've scared him off, talking about Hanoi John, says he will do just that - write in McCain)

seppuku?

"Seppuku" = "hari kiri", i.e. ritual suicide to preserve honor.

If there are any Bush supporters around, of course, I'll have to explain "honor" next. :-)

Interesting. Did Prince Bandar request it?

Bad decision, politically, imo.

What about all those innocent people he has killed. I am furious about that. He is so disingenuous. He is a piece of shit with corn!

going to be sitting in a hangar at a military base somewhere?

Where the F*CK is "the Arab World"?? ~ ~ ~ All over the World!!

His moron-andicy is soooo embarrassing.

... is as gullible as Americans. I think he is going to find them a very skeptical audience that does not care much about glib pronouncements.

But he has to take his shot.

is interested in anything he has to say? If most of us on DU can't stand the sight of him and lunge for the remote when his ugly mug comes on, will the Arab viewing audience just sit there and politely listen to him? I suspect they'll take their displeasure to the streets, en masse.

and neither does he. That's why he's appearing on two "networks" they don't watch.

This is photo-op and window dressing for American consumption, not intended to mollify anyone else. He approved this message, this message that brown-skinned people aren't important, aren't human, regardless where they live.

And for any repukes reading this, I offer you a challenge: Take a piece of plain white paper and compare it to the color of your skin. Bet you're "browner" than the paper.

I've done about all the :puke: ing I can handle for one day.


Tansy Gold

can only be won by those with souls and brains.

well said!

McClellan also sez: "It certainly does not help matters, but at the same time, it does not represent what 99 percent of the men and women in our military stand for," he said.

Which means we have about 1,380 war criminals roaming around the Iraq per WH.

Maybe updated, same story: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040505/D82C4HA00.html

It will only inflame the Arab world even more (not to mention European, etc.), but the U.S. corporate media will claim it was a big triumph and now everyone is happy again. Lots of rubes will buy it, but nobody outside of the U.S. right will.

...He is doing the right thing, I suppose- but I imagine he will screw it up just the same...

This is a BAD idea. He is the last person on earth the Arab world wants to hear from, and, given his track record of saying tremendously stupid things, this has the potential of being even more counter-productive than the closing of al-Sadr's newspaper.

"The adults are in charge now." And heaven help us... :scared:

for all the reasons already stated, I really can't add anything to the thread, but, express a deep deep sense of forboding, it's going to be a long hot summer.

I've got it, let's put Public Enemy No. 1 on the boob tube to 'smooth things over.'

Bush has fucked up Iraq, has kowtowed to Israel on the Palestinian issue, has a misadministration that covered this issue up, and now has the audacity, as Public Enemy No. 1 for the Arab world, to put himself on tv to 'smooth things over.'

Even Hitler would not be so crass. Imagine Hitler trying to address the Polish people on television apologizing for the occupation?

he would have said so in no uncertain terms as soon as he found out about them.The words would have come from deep in his heart. Instead he offered a lame...."I don`t like this one bit"....after the White House image makers checked out a few polls.

Now we have 24/7 damage control with half the cabinet racing up to microphones to telling the world about their so-called outrage. Three months late, but they`re outraged.

Yeah, right. We care so much about the Iraqis that we don`t even bother to count how many of them we have killed.

real preachy beginning. "I'm daddy, you're a child."

Then, he said that the U.S. was an open society (loud gaffaw heard in the peanut gallery). He also said this would be fully investigated (like his foot-dragging on 9-11?)

It was a borrowed chapter out of Propaganda 101, Chapter One.

My favorite from his interview: "We're an open society."

Define "open," Chimpy.

They already know what he's about. They've got him completely sussed. He's not gonna fool them. Even if they had the kind of blindly partisan, toady media we do, he wouldn't fool them. A people who contemplated, charted, and named the stars and brought us advanced mathmatics, engineering, architecture, design, philosophy, exploration, international trading, and multiple advanced civilizations before our ancestors even got ON the boat, would not be snowed by this fifth-rate, tin-plated, nick-name-slinging, dry-drunk con-artist.

His Chimperial Highness thinks that his "directly addressing" the Brown Skins will perform some miracle? Does anyone think he's got *any* credibility outside of of the Likud and Republican Parties?

He's going to go on tv and attempt to defend American presence in Iraq -- asking them to stay the course of instability, hardship, and daily death as part of a Divine Mission of peace.

Does he think that no one in the Arab world reads the papers, like him? That they are not aware that he is recklessly supporting the most radical elements in Israeli nationalism on a scale unprecented in American history? Does he think they haven't figured out how he has brought in Americans to do the jobs of Iraqis -- and at highly inflated prices? That His Leadership is going to miraculously quell the outrage against the occupation by denouncing the "Bad Apple Brigade" -- when, as he surely knows -- this famous incident is only one of many, and that he has ignored the screams of brutality and injustice that the Iraqi people have raised against the brutality in the American occupation for so many months?

Does he think that this proud people are not bristling with rage when they read Karpinski's statement that the only thing bad about Abu Ghraib prison now is that it is so nice -- far nicer than most of their homes -- that she is afraid that the prisoners will not want to leave?

Sorry, Your Chimperial Highness, but your going on "arab TV" is akin to Osama getting airtime to address the people of NYC on "his side of the story."

As someone posted above -- prediction: the least damaging thing that will come out of this is 20 million shoes shall be thrown at tvs. His Chimperial Majesty is vastly overestimating the credulity of Arabs if he thinks his Texas charm (:puke:) is going to sway anyone to his side.