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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:11 AM
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U.S. ... Officials Long Have Claimed Prisoners Were Being Treated Well
U.S. Military Officials Long Have Claimed Prisoners Were Being Treated Well

By Pauline Jelinek Associated Press Writer
Published: May 5, 2004

WASHINGTON (AP) - Time and again since the start of the war on terror, the Pentagon has asserted that it treats its prisoners humanely. And time and again, human rights groups have said they don't believe that's always so.

Now that graphic evidence of prisoner abuse has exploded into the news - with photos and a damning Army report on Iraq - officials have revealed some 20 other criminal investigations into prisoner deaths and assaults there and in Afghanistan, raising the question of why the problems weren't publicly acknowledged before and why more wasn't done.

Some say heads could roll.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld is coming in for much of the criticism. "The question for me is what did Secretary Rumsfeld and others in the Pentagon know, when did they know it, and what did they do about it," said Sen. Joseph Biden, ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. "If the answers are unsatisfactory, resignations should be sought."

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http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAZY5I0VTD.html

A rehash story--but I really like to see this AP single sentence paragraph: "Some say heads could roll." Rumy context too.
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The_camper Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:13 AM
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1. it seems like
a constant juggling act with Rumsfield.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:14 AM
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2. Rummy is in play now
I suspect so is Wolfie, Feith (who was gong to leave anyway, rumor
has it), and the Service Chiefs as well as Myers.

At the very least Rummy will have to go
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:46 AM
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3. My question is
what were they torturing the Iraqis to find out...about Al Queda or where the wmd's were. Either way it is unconscionable to abuse or torture another human being for any reason...after all we all belong to the human race...what you do to one, you do to all.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:28 AM
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4. I do recall the thing about the box cars. Keeping people in trailers?
This has been out on the net for a year. It has been back and forth on if it was going on.The groups that look into it said yes, so I have sort of thought they were right. They usually are.It will be more than 6 low level rates. When you put a group of people in every ones mind as sub-human people feel they can do any thing to them. The terrorist look at us as sub-human and we look at the people of the Middle East the same. Well I do not but it has been an under the main thing from the start.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 03:28 AM
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6. PEOPLE IN BOX CARS
One day, a very excited man came and wanted to be seen by the top delegate. He described the first loading of Jews into boxcars: they were jammed shoulder to shoulder, squeezed together, without food or water, with only the clothes on their backs. The doors were locked from the outside, and the trains were heading toward an unknown destination.

http://www.chgs.umn.edu/Visual___Artistic_Resources/Robert_O__Fisch/The_News/the_news.html


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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 03:21 AM
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5. And We Are Surprised Because...
Edited on Wed May-05-04 03:22 AM by rpannier
The shrubbie administration has long maintained a lot that wasn't true. So why should this be any different? We all no "No, Important heads will roll." They'll find some low-level beauracrat to blame, or they'll blame the press, or they'll say the pictures were fabricated, or they'll blame invaders from Saturn (which is why we need to go to Mars.) They will never blame their inner-sanctum. They can't afford to. Could you imagine if they sacked rummy and rummy talked?
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