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PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:35 PM
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Hughes Confronts Protestors
http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=46483

Hughes Confronts Protestors
Jon Shirek Reports

Reported By: Jon Shirek
Web Editor: Manav Tanneeru
Last Modified: 5/4/2004 8:25:28 PM

Presidential advisor Karen Hughes, in Atlanta on Tuesday promoting her book “Ten Minutes to Normal,” confronted critics who say she equates abortion rights advocates, who marched in Washington D.C. last month, with terrorists.

<snip>

Another woman in the audience asked, “As a pro-choice female, do you consider me a terrorist?”

“Absolutely not,” Hughes replied. “And I said nothing of the kind and did not make that comparison.”

“What I did say and what I believe is that September 11 was a reminder to all of us of the very precious nature of human life,” she added. “Surely, we can agree that we all ought to join together and work on ways to reduce the number of abortions in America, such as promoting adoption.”

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:38 PM
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1. promote adoption?
they don't give a hoot once the kids are born.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:21 PM
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17. What she really means: "Promote the adoption of healthy white babies...
...which can be auctioned off to the highest bidding, upwardly mobile, white couples. But, as for those awful little, crack-addicted, black babies, go ahead and suffocate 'em....Well, okay, let a few of 'em live, just in case we need to pick one for an election year Compassionate Conservative © TV ad."
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:23 PM
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18. Too bad everyone wants to adopt a healthy white baby...
...cause there are plenty of children who need adopted but they aren't white or they have medical problems that basically make these kids "undesirable" in the adoptive world.

This is what is really wrong with the "promote adoption" idea!
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:30 PM
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23. i misspoke above
i meant to say, "they don't give a hannity" about the chiLd once it's born.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:31 PM
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24. well as an adoptive mom
I agree on some points, but we have a multi-racial family. And my son has serious health problems...so not everyone who adopts is looking for a white infant. :)
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:42 PM
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26. kudos to you
but i think most white couples want a WHITE infant.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:57 PM
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30. If you were a neocon, I'd say you're the exception that proves the rule...
...but your contention that life is precious is proven by your actions, not merely alleged by your words. That makes you a Liberal--and you make me proud that I'm a Liberal, too.
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:18 AM
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42. That is because you are an awesome person and NOT a NEOCON
I've noticed from polls and news that the states who are the most anti-abortion have a very high number of minority children living in foster care. It's usually one of those Guns and Jesus types who will say they are opposed to abortion and promote adoption - but they won't adopt. I am a family law attorney and I've handled a lot of adoptions and I've noticed that mixed race families work out fabulously. The kids don't care, they just want to be loved. So far, I've been able to raise my three kids with children of many races. Kids aren't inherently prejudiced - they learn that crap from parents/family members, etc. But I think it is wonderful that you adopted. God Bless. O8)
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:31 AM
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39. Love the fetus, hate the child.
n/t
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:39 PM
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2. How about promoting sex ed education? Oops - I forgot
she wants to promote abstinence and put money into proving condoms are worthless in preventing AIDS and pregnancy.
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Point_n_click Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:41 PM
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3. She said it again ...
Once again in a statement, Hughs has mentioned both 9/11 and abortion. She'll claim she's not making the connection/assertion and then immediately do it again. She's got to be mentally deranged.

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AussieInCA Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:42 PM
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5. headline should read:Hughes reinforces connection 911 terrorist & abortion
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:57 PM
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9. It's Not Just Her.
They all do it. They take a stand on something and then immediately contradict themselves in the same setting. They either do it on purpose and figure that people are to stupid to pick-up on their double speak, or their talking points are so nuanced that they don't even know what hell their talking about. I sometimes wonder if we have outstripped the usefulness of the English language, or spoken dialog at all for that matter.

Jay
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:41 PM
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4. she DID make that comparison
she said that the terrorists don't value life and that we civilized people do.

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:43 PM
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6. Lies and the Lying Liars who tell them
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:52 PM
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7. Will she be coming to Seattle?
I'm really pissed about this stupid equating of 9/11 w/the abortion debate. It's cynical, it's wrong, and it's sick. I will not allow a shill like Hughes to use this nationwide tragedy against me...

I will protest her. She needs to be called out on her insanity. That's what she is: insane.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:56 PM
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8. WTF do 9/11 and Terror have to do with being Pro-Choice?
:argh:
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:00 PM
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12. Everything has to do with 911 citizen! The world has changed, doncha know?
011 is that magic day where EVERYTHING started to go W's way. EVERYTHING, I say! :eyes:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:10 PM
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14. Yep, you'd better get in line and act like a Republican
or you're a "terrarist sympathizer' and you can be hauled off to Guantanamo Bay, and get a little of what they're passing out in U.S. non-Geneva-Convention-respecting slammers these days.


Notice his face goes dead if someone else is in the limelight?
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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:27 PM
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22. Notice she looks like a man?
People say ann is a man, karen isn't far from it.

I noticed when they showed her walking next to chimpy that her face, neck and hands are bigger than his. She really has a manly shape - wide shoulders, big bones in face. Picture her as a man before the hormones and makeup! It could have been??!!?!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:25 AM
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37. most repuke women look like men....
Katherine Harris comes to mind to. Christie Todd-Whitman is an uncanny clone of Prince Charles. Pickles always reminds me of Jack Nicholson's The Joker. Come to think of it, name me one attractive repuke woman. :shrug:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:25 PM
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21. I had bad gas yesterday thanks to 9/11
That's pretty much the mantra for the neo-conservatives - blame everything on 9/11.

:mad:
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Southpaw Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 03:12 PM
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32. 9/11: Replacing Clinton's penis
as the cause of all ills, problems, and sideways farts in the United States.
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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 03:29 PM
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33. But you forget that Clinton's penis...
...caused 9/11.
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Southpaw Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:16 AM
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34. Damn
So it IS Clinton's penis's fault after all. Should have known.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:57 PM
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10. Notice ~ No Apology forth coming even for creating a "misunderstanding"
Edited on Wed May-05-04 02:11 PM by Bandit
She knows damn well what she said and exactly how people would take it. If she is sincere in her surprize that people would misunderstand her she should apologize for creating such a horrible misunderstanding. We didn't create it she did. We do value life especially that of mothers and their right to choose their life's paths. We also value the lives of Iraqi children and their mothers too. Cluster bombs have a tendency not to do that and we all know who loves to use cluster bombs.
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:58 PM
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11. I think I like Karen
less than bush.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:05 PM
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13. I liked this quote
Edited on Wed May-05-04 02:06 PM by mac56
One of the protestors, a woman, said to Hughes, “We just want you to apologize. Trent Lott apologized for insensitive statements.”

(Instead Hughes passed the buck: )
"I didn't say what they're saying I said."
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 03:00 PM
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31. Like hell she didn't
"the fundamental difference between us and the terror network we fight is that we value every life."

The obvious implication in that statement is that if you aren't pro-life, as she see it, then you are just as bad as a member of the "terror network we fight".
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:12 PM
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15. Prescious Nature of Human Life
Tell that to the thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians and Aghanis we blew to bits in retaliation for 9/11. We took at least 4 for every 1 they took from us.

Talk about the prescious nature of human life to the thousands of children who suffer and die because the current Republican philosophy is to allow wealth to "trickle" down to them.

Tell that to the thousands who die every day in the world while we turn a blind eye because their country is not important to our survival.

Karen Hughes, you can take your prescious life and shove it.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:15 PM
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And she is a disgusting marketing skank..............EOM
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:45 PM
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27. Karen is nothing more than a "sweat Hog" for her pimp
....and the pimp is nothing more than a front for organizations like the Carlyle Group.

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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:15 PM
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16. Couldn't anyone just ask this?
No, it was your clever choice of words "we value every life" that serves practically as a mantra for anti-choicers. Don't pretend you didn't choose those words carefully, you sick little pseudo-intellectual, sell-out excuse for a female.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:23 PM
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19. every life in the U, she could give a crap
about the Iraqi or Afghani lives that have been lost...not to mention a whole slew of other countries.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:24 PM
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20. now we know where bush
got his notion about not making mistakes.
hughes is about as gross as a train wreck.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:40 PM
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25. aha!
so someone FINALLY came out and said it - they want to curb abortions to increase adoptions....of healthy white infants!
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:48 PM
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28. I thought terrorists hate freedom, i.e. choice
So, by Bushco's reasoning isn't the "war against terrorism" really in support of freedom of choice? I am sure Ossama (or whoever did it) doesn't want to allow abortion rights either. So, Karen Hughes's argument doesn't hold up either way.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:55 PM
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29. Peculiar priorities the Bushies have:
Edited on Wed May-05-04 02:57 PM by 9215
Undeniably alive and kicking young people sent to the slaughter in a reckless resource grab and their victims tortured while at the same time the people who sent them raise holy hell about abortion.

They have to be the biggest crop of hypocritical sleaze to have ever plagued this planet. The anti-abortion position by the Bushies and their following is all bullshit to perpetuate kulturcampf.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:18 AM
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35. How about promoting condoms? n/t
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:24 AM
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36. Pregnancy and Childbirth the Leading Cause of Death for Teen Girls in the
Developing World.


http://www.savethechildren.org/news/releases/release_sowm04_a.asp

If Karen really cared about life and children she would understand this report.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:26 AM
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38. But don't let those gays adopt those babies~!
If she'd at least support adoptions in more than idle words she might have a shred of credibility.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:54 AM
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41. Jeb's state of FL is one of the worst
no gay adoption, but they can foster parent....huh? Guess, it's okay if tehy are taking care of children the state doesn't even want.

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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:39 AM
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40. I thought Ms Hughes was trying to spend time with her family
Instead of getting into other people's affairs...

Karen, go home and see if you can best Hillary's chocolate chip cookie recipe...
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