U.S. Troops Said to Mistreat Elder Iraqi

U.S. Troops Said to Mistreat Elder Iraqi
By SUE LEEMAN, Associated Press Writer

LONDON - U.S. soldiers who detained an elderly Iraqi woman last year placed a harness on her, made her crawl on all fours and rode her like a donkey, Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites)'s personal human rights envoy to Iraq (news - web sites) said Wednesday.

The envoy, legislator Ann Clwyd, said she had investigated the claims of the woman in her 70s and believed they were true.

During five visits to Iraq in the last 18 months, Clwyd said, she stopped at British and U.S. jails, including Abu Ghraib, and questioned everyone she could about the woman's claims. But she did not say whether the people questioned included U.S. forces or commanders.

Asked for details, Clwyd said during a telephone interview with The Associated Press that she "didn't want to harp on the case because as far as I'm concerned it's been resolved."

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040505/ap_on_re_eu/britain_iraq_us_prisoner_abuse

Those "inner warriors" they wanted to wake up 2 years ago are awake now!

Dispicable.

If this is true ----I for one ---will be on the rampage.

geez!

One day, some day, these "troops" will
be back here, wandering our streets.
Isn't that a lovely thought?
BHN

:shrug: Oh Lord what have we wrought?

...said so. Right, Ms. Clwyd? So we neither need nor deserve any further details. Besides, she almost has her jewelry back. Gosh, who could ask for anything more? You know, like her dignity, her reputation, the truth?

LONDON - U.S. soldiers who detained an elderly Iraqi woman last year placed a harness on her, made her crawl on all fours and rode her like a donkey, Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites)'s personal human rights envoy to Iraq (news - web sites) said Wednesday.


NO PHOTOS YET

didn't they?
Busy, busy bees, those FEW who are
the exception. Where ever did those
FEW find the time to torture SO MANY?
Hmmm?
BHN

I am betting they are confiscating the cameras as we speak.

Items not allowed into the warzone, will now include cameras.

Wanna bet on this?

And this is actually, and sadly, expected when all standards are ignored from the top...

Much as I am inclined to believe the worst of the US forces folks, we are looking for the truth, not disinfo. Peruse the following
MEET ANN CLWYD, FUNDED BY UNCLE SAM

If you think the UK is somehow different from other US infiltrated countries, consider the case of the Blairite MP Ann Clywd who runs Indict, described as a human rights organisation. In fact Indict was only ever concerned with indicting America's new enemies, Saddam Hussein and the Ba'ath Party in Iraq. It has now been wound up, acording to Clwyd's office because its job is over.

Clwyd was once a hero of the left who boosted her career with opposition to Cruise missiles in the 1980s. Now she is a leading warmonger, credited with swinging twenty Labour MPs into supporting the war with her denunciations of Saddam Hussein (and indirectly helping to pollute Iraq with tonnes of depleted uranium dust).

Recently The Observer ran a glowing interview with Clwyd, the sort of puff normally reserved for celebrities in reviews sections. Clwyd was so brave that she was even prepared to be a favorite of Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz in the cause of human rights. (You might wonder why she was not calling for their indictment as the people who aided and abetted Saddam's worst crime: the launching of the 1982 war of aggression against Iran)

What The Observer failed to mention is that Clwyd's organisation is FUNDED by the US State Department. The grants, under the Iraq Liberation Act, started within six months of the founding of Indict. Clwyd's key allegation against Saddam Hussein, that he was putting people live through mincing machines, now seems about as likely as the 1991 lies about the Kuwaiti babies, or for that matter the 1914 lies about the Germans. If you think this is so grotesque it has to be true, think again.

On the day of the Iraq House of Commons vote Clwyd's claim ran in Murdoch's Times under the headline ‘See men shredded, then say you don’t back war’. Challenged by The Spectator magazine, Clwyd now describes these statements as reports. It was not her job to verify them, she says, and nobody did. The researcher who came up with them in `Northern Iraq` (aka Kurdistan, not occupied by Hussein's forces for over ten years) is `unavailable`.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/spectator/spec239.html

Meanwhile children are certainly shredded by Clwyd's cluster bombs, but that's different, it's an accident. Clwyd's office does not know what proportion of Indict's income came from the State Department or whether she has anything to say about the routine hooding of Iraqi suspects by British troops, a practice borrowed from Israel and generally considered to amount to torture. Clwyd is the Blair-appointed chair of the Commons Human Rights Committee but as the Blair-appointed special envoy to Iraq she is in Iraq and not available for comment. Any comment we receive from Clwyd will be reported in the next newsletter.

It seems that the further away the human rights villain, the braver Clwyd and The Observer become

:cry:

I just cannot believe this administration covered up this pattern of abuse. Uh, oh,...well I guess I can believe it.

I'm sure they would say their elderly mom deserved it somehow..even though she had done nothing wrong other than being a citizen.

,...unfortunately. Interesting sense of "justice" huh,...being that freepers are more equal than everybody else.

but some pigs are more equal than others

This is making me sick, those poor people.

soldiers were copying the cowboy in the white house.

by the so-called few soldiers has its roots in a sick society that has devalued and dehumanized each individual in it, and parallels the grow the behemoth corporations all around us. What CEOs do to all of us in their zeal to acquire more is quite similar in nature, they just rape customers, employees, and shareholders in the wallets instead our physical bodies.

As above, so below.

These are not a few isolated cases as we are led to beleive. This is systemic. Afghanistan has its own abuses that are still to be accounted for. And les we forget, the US HIRED mercenaries from such upstanding nations. Why would we somehow think they would behave any differently than in their own home nations???????

I am not saying that the abuses were from private contractors only, but we must be cognizant what the US undertook in an effort to get more boots on the ground without leading the US public in an outcry should many US troops die.

Perhaps this story and collections of stories will lead to the downfall of Bush. Perhaps this is the final straw for the American people. Corruption and cronyism don't seem to faze them much.....

Any more on this story???

This is the depth of subhuman depravity. There is no excuse or justification on God's green earth for this perversion. One does not need to be schooled in the Geneva Convention or receive specialized training to know that riding a 74 year old woman like a donkey is an act of pure evil. Looks like the British officers warning that they observed American soldiers treating Iraqi civilians like "untermenschen" was accurate. There needs to be a wholesale prosecution to the fullest extent of the law all people involved in any such acts anywhere, anytime.

and as human beings. How anyone could treat another with such disrepect shows a complete disconnect from any moral or human values...and it is all too common in this country and now we have "shared" it. My heart is so heavy over all this.

This is just the tip of a very large and very slimy iceberg.

I keep hoping this is the last gasp of a very dark dark place we have been in and keep looking for the light to come pouring in....

Peace
DR
I agree completely with your post Simple Trend ....& welcome to DU:hi:

I wonder if someday someone will make a movie of this? Pure evil.

Pasolini's Salo. A brutal study of the fascist mind.


Pasolini loosely based his tale the Marquis de Sade’s appalling The 120 Days of Sodom, and then set the film in WWII fascist northern Italy. Sixteen children are kidnapped by the Duc de Blangis and his depraved contingent (including an Archbishop) and removed to a secluded and stately countryside villa. Immediately the children are stripped and forced to begin obedience training, where even the mere mention of God is punishable by death. For the next 120 days, the children move through various circles of degradation and subjected to torture, rape (both heterosexual and homosexual), mutilation, and death.

...

What makes the film even more horrifying is that these unspeakable abuses are all being done to children. But as terrible as it is to watch (there are parts where even the most hardened will gag), Salo is not exploitive, nor should its violence be called over the top. Pasolini’s use of graphic images serve to remind us of the recurring dangers of fascism in the real world and the moral decay and corruption inherent in limitless power.

http://www.thomasvideo.com/realdetroit/real-salo.html

womam in her seventies doing in that hellhole Abu Ghraib anyway? Jesus Christ, the GI's remind me of the Gorillas from Planet of the Apes. Brainwashed into beasts?

THUGS AND HOODLUMS

She is as moraly responsible for this as the soldiers at Abu Ghraib.

I find her even more repulsive than Blair or Bush :puke:

To the Hague with her.

the "plastic shredder" of Abu Ghraib. Where is it? Even a year later, the allegation, based on the word of one man, is wholly unsubstantiated.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1505937

it is impossible to wage a "just war" preemptively. The only just war is one where we are defending ourselves after an actual attack or a real threat. Iraq was neither of those.

I believe these photos are the tip of the iceberg of America's atrocities in Iraq. It's like when you see a single mouse in your house -- you know that there are others hiding beyond the walls, out of sight.

It's going to get much, much worse before it gets better. As each day unfolds it becomes clearer to me why Vietnam became the national outrage that it did back in its day.

Why isn't anyone with any stature pointing out that Bush is making the world less safe, not more. His war is creating enemies of America where there were none, and causing our allies to turn away from us.

If the US wasn't already savaged enough on the world stage, these photos of prison torture will be the last straw. France and Germany were wise not to get involved with this mess.

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