Source: Bush unhappy with defense chief

Again! Everyone but the chimp is to blame.


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush told Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld on Wednesday that he was "not satisfied" at the way he received information about charges that Iraqi prisoners had been abused by U.S. soldiers at Abu Ghraib prison, a senior administration official told CNN.

At a private Oval Office meeting, Bush complained about learning of the existence of photographs showing Iraqi prisoners being humiliated and degraded from media accounts, the official said.

"He was not happy, and he let Secretary Rumsfeld know about it," the official said.

Bush also voiced concern that he was not kept up to speed on important information about the scope of the problem -- and how the Pentagon was handling it, the official said.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/05/iraq.abuse.main/index.html

Buh' bye Rumsferatu! You're the weakest link!

... and besides, who's next in line? Wolfowitz? Frying pan to the fire....

I have been reading between the lines (in terms of comments made by various gov't officials) the last few days and it seems like a case is being built to dump Rummy. That having been said, it would be extremely out of character for Bush to dump someone that high up. If Rummy is given the boot, I think it'd be a signal for how large a crisis this has become.

And W admits an error.

NOT gonna happen. He'd fire a hundred Pentagon Paper Pushers before he'd do this before the election. If you actually believe he has the power to fire anyone at all without Cheney or Rummy's orders.

It will be interesting to see what does transpire.

the chimp is the one the voters can toss out, Rummy has to take the slap on the hand.

This is the same CIA Tenet bullshit. No one tells poor George anything, boo-hoo. It's not the chimps fault.

Rumsfield's approval ratings will go down, the chimps will go up.

But somehow, no matter how arrogant and incompetent, nobody gets fired from BushCo.

http://www.wgoeshome.com

And if there are any more problems, he'll have to do a naked pigpile with Condi and Colin and Wolfie again.

for King George.

... must be tightly managed... especially when they're to the advantage of the administration.... Wonder who leaked this one about a "private" meeting?

Sounds, to me, like they're trying to put up a firewall to protect the Boy Prez. The leak is an attempt to create false evidence of *'s ignorance of the problems.

Don't drink coffee while you're reading it:

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=5052755

Bush Annoyed with Rumsfeld Over Iraq Abuse, Aides Say

(snip)

"The president was not satisfied with the way he was informed with regard to the pictures, and he let Secretary Rumsfeld know about it too," a senior administration official said. "He believes it's better to make it known privately instead of pointing fingers."

Ja know... on the rare occassions when I have a private meeting with a subordinate about their poor job performance, I generally DON'T blast fax the details of our meeting to the media...

:headbang:
rocknation

quit passing the buck bush*.

which makes this whole business policy cover for bush. There is ALWAYS more to the story than meets the eye with these clowns.

These guy's track history is to wait the storm out. They did it with thhe Anthrax mailer, and the outing of a CIA agent. They'll do it with this too.

They count very heavily on the public's short memory. However, one caveat to this. They always do their dirtiest work in off election years. Bush's problem is all of last year's dirty work is blowing up in his face this year. Still, I think they'll wait out the storm and watch the polls and focus groups.

admonish in the public, *wink* in private and keeping covering up the truth.

But it's not Rummy's fault.

Let's see.....they knew about these incidents a year ago. They sat on their hands and did nothing.

A few months later after the photos circulated on the trophy circuit, the appeared in Times of India. India, of all places. Then the bomb struck. The photos spread to Europe.

There was no way the US could get out of it at that point.

So Bush could be right. He was "not satisfied" with the way he received information. Not from India, anyway.

I'm sure this second hand report of Bush's displeasure will satisfy the Arab world.

It must be really bad if George is looking for a sacrifice.

Reread the first paragraph.

It's all about the photographs.

Bush yelled at him because the photographs got out.

And I suggest that the only investigation carried out by DOD and the WH is - WHO LET THE PHOTOGRAPHS GET OUT. Any angry words about investigation and punishment relates to the PICTURES.

That is ALL that they care about.

and if criminal charges are filed.
He'll pardon him at term's end,
just like Poppy did to his criminal consorts.

No Big Whoop!

Don't Think . . . You're in America.

http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13

Is what they've been saying all day. But, like the issue of the photos getting out (not that the abuse happened), you need to listen carefully. There is a big "unless" in there that the media cuts off when talking about this (NPR very briefly mentioned it tonight). The "unless" is "unless we approve it in advance."

So, what reforms can we expect? Well, first of all, NO FILM CAMERAS!

Second; MORE GUARDS to keep nosy do-gooders away from the rape rooms and torture chambers.

Third: Wait for our orders before you torture...but we'll deny giving them when you're caught.

Don't be fooled for a minute. It will be business as usual at the prison. They'll just have to tighten their secrecy shrouds.

How many times have we heard that Colin Powell was unhappy and was calling it a day? Then Colin comes out from his hole and sez it ain't true.

How many times has Rummy been in junior's dog house. The last time it was putting Condi in charge to cool out Rummy. Rummy pouted for a few days and than figured out a way to go around the slick talking bitch.

So now it's said that junior ain't happy with the 'circle jerk' Rummy.

What has indeed changed? Haven't we all seen these acts before? But we keep falling sucker to the same shit, don't we?

That doesn't make sense, as bush likes to brag about how he doesn't read papers or watch the news.

and fund raising, he'd know more about what the fuck was going on.

Second, where did his unsticker go? I thought Condi was going to take charge of Iraq and keep Rummie and the DOD guys under control?

as a way to maintain his morality scam on the fundie base.

Who would Jesus torture?

This is to establish an aliby - Bush didn't know anything and was out of the loop. Watch for a big story about nothing to break in a few days to wipe it off the front page. The media will drown us in trivia. Americans will get tired of hearing about torture.

It may be wiped off our front pages as you say,
but it's not going to go away anytime soon.

Saddam's trial is coming up next month.
The atrocities and torture of prisoners
is precisely what the Trial is about.
Bush is tied up into it...lock, Stock and BBBBBarrel.

and so is Poppy!

Geez, I'd hate to see the screwup that's firing offense for this band of lunatics and incompetents. It would probably take inadvertently starting WWIII. Anyone remember when they hounded Les Aspin out of DC after Somalia? And how did Cap Weinberger keep his job after Beirut? Just askin'.

Got another idea? ;-)

It's called treason 911. They all succeed together or they all hang together.

is chimpy just NOW figuring out THEY DON'T F***ING CLUE HIM IN ON ANYTHING ?????

so the deal was that no one would ever bother him with it – it might upset his golf game or cut into his workout time. Now that he's caught with his pants down, somebody's got to take the heat.

suck my dick george..you asshole!!

i have a feeling more shit will come out on thursday.

edit: i was wrong. more shit has already come out. re: drudge

he was spinning this story so hard. Kept reciting the usual mantra about the abuse being "not what America is about" and all that but making it quit clear that a lot of time had elapsed between the moment Rummy knew the story and the moment he told * about it. The WH reporters, to their credit, kept asking the same basic question over and over again - How come * learned about this from the 60 Minutes report? Scotty didn't get to talk about anything else. It was wonderful.

It's nice when the press actually puts the screws to him.

bastard and he will get back at Bush by spilling the sordid tale of 9-11, the fake Afghan and Iraq wars, the Venezuela coup attempts, etc., etc. WooHoo!

I think not.

Just when I thought it was possible not hate the worthless little shit more than I already do, I'm proven wrong. :puke:

what it's like to be in the dark all the time.:eyes: