Rumsfeld says he may resign..

At the tail end of the first round of the investigation. Rumy said, "he may not be effective at his job."

makes one realize that before January 2000, there was a REAL president sitting at that desk.

Isn't that a marker for insanity or schizophrenia?

it's truly a bizarre piece of propagandizing -

seems to make them think that they are greater than human :puke:

uh, I mean Bob Dole--always used to do that too.

that never receives a qualitative answer..instead Rumy refers back to the questeion posed by Sen. Reed.

Rumy cannot contain this firestorm. Gen Myers let the cat out of the bag when he said the President was informed in late Jan/Feb of the abuse!

AND the chimp KNEW NOTHING until Apr 28th??

HEY NICE RAT'S NEST IN FALLUJAH ---MORAN.

But I saw Robert Byrd give it to him.

And who told Rumsferatu he could bring that entourage of sycophants with him to answer the tough questions??

Bush said he found out on the news! Of course we know that was BS, but now he has been outed.

"Despite calls from Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) and other Democrats for resignation, no congressional Republican has called on Rumsfeld to step down. And the defense secretary drew a vote of confidence on Thursday from President Bush, who declared flatly "he'll stay in my Cabinet."

Whom would we EXPECT Bush to appoint, a decent American?




This Iraqi man is wearing the latest in Ralph Rumsfelt Fashion Wear.

It's from the "I'M WEARING A BAG ON MY HEAD FOR FREEDOM COLLECTION"

Said Wolfman Wolfowitz chief designer of the collection. "Our work is meant to inspire Co-
Operation on the part of the wearer". He continued, "Sometimes a good swift ass kicking gets
them in a proper frame of mind to wear our creations."

Next up US govt approved chromed and plated testicle crushers !!!!




Wearing the latest fashion in wear for captured Iraqis is Saddam Al Masser of Fallujah. In a
Wolfman Wolfowitz inspired creation, made especially for Iraq-Nam II. Mr. Masser models a not
too tight White Head Bag. When asked how it felt Mr. Masser commented "MH$#)(*&%$$"

This creation is produced by HALLIBURTON HOMEWEAR --A division of exorbitant tax
ripoffs .com

I want them on international television with leashes around their necks, electrodes on their nads, and downtrodden brown people standing over them leering at them like the pieces of rat feces that they are.



:hippie:

But no torture or "abuse," ok? We don't stand for that in Murika, remember?

I want them charged/tried/convicted/sentenced for their crimes against this country and against the countries they have damaged.

That's the recourse in a civilized world.

with that infamous misspeak, if they should call it such.

No doubt about it, the Armed Services Committee are shaken in their boots and are afraid they will be responsible for Bush's demise.

Sad, they have such a vested interest in a band of Criminals.

God, I hope he quits or gets fired. Either one is fine with me.

He's had a catastrophic effect on this country. (I know, he isn't the only one.)

1)Rice did not know enough about 9/11 to prevent it.
2)Cheney lied about "yellow cake" that let us to war.
3)Rumsfield did not know enough to address the prison scandal adequately.
4)No Osama, wrong on mission accomplished,
5)Fire the General that was right about the number of troops needed.
6)Wrong on the amount of money the tax payers will pay for the war

90% of the world think we are wrong and arrogant and think that * is as evil as Saddam and he is leading in the polls. How in God's name can any sane person want this idiot to continue leading this country and think we are safer? Maybe if the fucking asshole spent more time in Washington doing his job instead of vacationing and fund raising we wouldn't be where we are today, of course that would be totally against what this administration wants. What a sad scenario, is this the future of our once great nation? I cry for my children and grandchildren if this idiot get elected.

It is certainly More than 90% "of the world think we are wrong and arrogant...". Half of the sheeple here don't make up 10% of the world's population. Geeze, get your facts straight! :crazy:

Bill Clinton lied about a BLOWJOB. That was far, far worse than what you listed in your message. (/end sarcasm)

This nation is really starting to depress me.

When the hearing closed, Brian Williams gave a brief recap. He failed to include any of the omissions Rumy made when addressing Sens Reed and Clinton's questions.

Some of the Republicans seem to be bent on getting to the Truth...Sen. Grahm come to mind. However, from what I've heard so far...The Rethugs by and large are closing ranks to protect Rumy as best they can.

When Rumy was asked when he alerted the President of the abuses, he alluded to a communication he sent to the president making note of the torture of Iraqi prisoners..


We need to see that communication.

Some Dem has to subpoena any and all records of communication between the President and Rumsfeld concerning the photos depicting the abuse and torture of the Iraqi prisoners.

jump from the pan into the fire :puke:

Because I think it would go the way of Trent Lott. Get rid of one fall-guy, and Bush and Cheney stay clean, once again. They toss Rumsfeld to the lions, he goes on to have a fat contract with the companies running the war, and he's no worse off than before.. in actuality, he'd be less constrained by govermental authority then. I'd rather see that ass stay in his job, and see BUSH and CHENEY answer for this!!! They KNEW what was happening, once again, and LIED about it.. as though Bush had JUST heard about it.

DO any of us REALLY believe that Rumsfeld and Bush and Cheney were out of the loop on this? THat the IRC would have done these investigations and reports and they NEVER saw the light of day with the top people. Bullshit. Rumsfeld should stay, and he and Bush and Cheney need to face the music together. No falling on the sword for the BFEE

...that the Congress would have to hold hearings on Rummy's replacement, and that would mean all sorts of uncomfortable questions for the administration smack dab in the middle of election season.

May be a good thing, methinks...

If you read what he said closely he says if he couldn't be effective he would resign. No one in Shrub's camp thinks he did anything wrong, so he will still be able to be effective.

RANGEL INTRODUCES IMPEACHMENT ARTICLES AGAINST RUMSFELD

Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.), a lead critic of the Bush administration's policy in Iraq, introduced eight articles of impeachment Thursday against Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld amid Congressional outrage over the Pentagon's handling of charges of prison abuse by U.S. soldiers.

“I think that this rises to the point that it’s a high crime and misdemeanor if he disappointed the president, kept information from the Congress and kept this information from the American people,” Rangel said on the House floor.

Among the prospective charges against Rumsfeld included in the Rangel’s impeachment measure are that the Defense chief “contributed to an atmosphere of lawlessness” that permitted the abuses to take place, and “abdicated his role” in allowing such a breakdown in discipline.

The articles also charge that Rumsfeld “urged and oversaw” the removal of Saddam Hussein under a “false premise” — namely, that the United States was under threat of “imminent” attack from weapons of mass destruction and that Iraq’s dictator was in league with al Qaeda in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

...more...

http://www.rollcall.com/issues/1_1/breakingnews/5474-1.html

they don't think he was doing anything wrong. He was following the plan. They knew about prisoner abuse-why else do you set up a prison outside of any legal protections(I'm talking Cuba but its all the same) They are arrogant bastards who think they can do anything and get away with it(plus they are on a relgious mission and God is on their side) and if you think this is bad, you ain't seen nothing yet if they get reelected.

This misadmnistration has gotten away with far too much..

Time for them to find the DOOR!

And WE are willing to HELP THEM!

This headline is a misrepresentation of what Rumsfeld said. He was asked if his resignation would send a signal to the world of WH intent. He said "It might."

will post it here.

thanks-

"Asked whether he could remain effective in his post, he said if he believed he could not, "I'd resign in a minute."

My Headline encaptioned said..."Rumsfeld may resign" is for the most part accurate..

The hairsplitting begins if it is his decision to make!


forgot the link:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/fc?cid=34&tmpl=fc&in=US&cat=US_Armed_Forces

is the heart of the problem. Even if Vlad resigns, whomever replaces him will be the same or worse, IMO.

no doubt about it..

Now that it's been revealed Bush Knew in Jan...

"The Fox in the Henhouse scenario."

from the Yahoo link:

"Rumsfeld also announced creation of a panel of retired officials to examine "the pace, the breadth, the thoroughness of the existing investigations and to determine whether additional investigations or studies need to be initiated." He said the group will have 45 days to complete its work."

The question was along the lines of "Would things be better if you resigned?"

and I thought he said "perhaps so"

If you read the Yahoo link it says...Paraphrasing:

"He would resign if he thought he was ineffective at his job, but would not consider resignation from political pressure."

Well, in case he's lying, he's already demonstrated his ineffectiveness.

there must be a link to a published article

Kerry Dismisses Rumsfeld's Apology


PHOENIX - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry on Friday dismissed Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's apology for U.S. abuses of Iraqi prisoners and said the responsibility lies with the commander in chief.

"The chain of command goes all the way to the Oval Office," Kerry said. "Harry Truman did not say 'the buck stops at the Pentagon.'"

Although Bush apologized on Thursday for the abuse of Iraqi prisoners and Rumsfeld apologized Friday during a session with the Senate Armed Services Committee, Kerry said they should have moved far faster. The administration had to be pressured into acknowledging its responsibility, he said.

"We need a president who understands the difference between strength and stubbornness," he said.

"We should be the leaders in condemning the appalling images of abuse, not following others who showed them to us," Kerry said. "We should be the leaders in setting a standard of behavior that we talk about in the abuse that we've seen flashing across television screens all across the world. We cannot ever succeed in Iraq (news - web sites) or anywhere else on this planet by abandoning the values that define the United States of America."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040507/ap_on_el_pr/kerry...