UK forces taught torture methods

A number of commercial firms which have been supplying interrogators to the US army in Iraq boast of hiring former US special forces soldiers, such as Navy Seals.

"The crucial difference from Iraq is that frontline soldiers who are made to experience R2I techniques themselves develop empathy. They realise the suffering they are causing. But people who haven't undergone this don't realise what they are doing to people. It's a shambles in Iraq".


"The feeling among US soldiers I've spoken to in the last week is also that 'the gloves are off'. Many of them still think they are dealing with people responsible for 9/11".

When the interrogation techniques are used on British soldiers for training purposes, they are subject to a strict 48-hour time limit, and a supervisor and a psychologist are always present. It is recognised that in inexperienced hands, prisoners can be plunged into psychosis.

The spectrum of R2I techniques also includes keeping prisoners naked most of the time. This is what the Abu Ghraib photographs show, along with inmates being forced to crawl on a leash; forced to masturbate in front of a female soldier; mimic oral sex with other male prisoners; and form piles of naked, hooded men.



The US commander in charge of military jails in Iraq, Major General Geoffrey Miller, has confirmed that a battery of 50-odd special "coercive techniques" can be used against enemy detainees. The general, who previously ran the prison camp at Guantánamo Bay, said his main role was to extract as much intelligence as possible.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1212197,00.html

My head is exploding!

:nuke:

This article puts the whole thing together, how it all happened. The whole thing just stinks beyond belief. This is what comes of all the lies and all the stupidity.

"The crucial difference from Iraq is that frontline soldiers who are made to experience R2I techniques themselves develop empathy. They realise the suffering they are causing. But people who haven't undergone this don't realise what they are doing to people. It's a shambles in Iraq".

The British former officer said the dissemination of R2I techniques inside Iraq was all the more dangerous because of the general mood among American troops.

"The feeling among US soldiers I've spoken to in the last week is also that 'the gloves are off'. Many of them still think they are dealing with people responsible for 9/11".

I think my head is exploding, too!!

Gee Whiz can 'ya believe this crap? I wonder what R-20 is compared to R-22? Fifty so-called techniques.

There is so much stuff out there, it is hard to digest it all. But this article should be read.

and indulge themselves in a little show and tell.

All hell is going to break loose then -- within those nice camps FEMA has all lined up for dissidents and liberals.

At Abu Gharib, orders went out to military police “to facilitate interrogation by setting conditions”. This meant a thorough beating.

The use of the word stress is interesting, because it appears in the testimony of a witness named Staff Sergeant Ivan Frederick II, who said of one prisoner: “They stressed him out so bad that the man passed away. They put him in a body bag and packed him in ice for approximately 24 hours.” The word stress once meant mental, emotional or physical strain. There was no sense that finality or termination would result from “stressing out”. Now we know differently.



The appearance of contractors is an important part of the story. The US military has been overstretched by the invasion of Iraq, and so relies on what is really a policy of outsourcing. Contractors carry out roles as disparate as the guarding of prisoners and filling in for special forces. On the ground they look no different from US Army personnel, but in reality they may have less training and are certainly less answerable for their actions.



The military complain that control is lacking, but what they don’t say is that having a group of people working at one remove from official forces benefits the war against terror.



That has certainly, until recently, been the policy of the CIA and Pentagon when debriefing terrorist suspects with the help of America’s more barbarous allies in the Middle East and North Africa. The point was that America could not be held directly responsible because no US citizen — certainly none that I could trace — was applying the electrodes to a suspect.

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http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_7361.shtml

I am just sick, there are no words.

This one needs to be read!

...as well as the individual torturers.

who thought we would be bringing democracy and liberal values to iraq and that somehow justified the war?

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=519247

An Iraqi prisoner has described how he was allegedly subjected to vicious beatings by laughing British soldiers during interrogation sessions which left another man dead.

In a witness statement obtained by The Independent, Kifah Talah, 44, an engineer, claims he was hooded and beaten about the neck, chest and genitals by soldiers during three days before being made to dance in front of his tormentors.

Mr Talah said he was among seven men taken to an interrogation centre where they were tortured and humiliated by up to eight soldiers at a time.

Mr Talah, first interviewed by The Independent on Sunday, claims each of the detainees was given the name of a famous footballer, such as Marco Van Basten or Ruud Gullit, and they were beaten if they failed to remember it. One soldier allegedly told them to "dance like Michael Jackson". Basa Mousa, 26, a hotel receptionist, died of his injuries.

"The feeling among US soldiers I've spoken to in the last week is also that 'the gloves are off'.

Wow.

for everything

for tirelessly posting all these stories and links and keeping on top of this stuff. We're all a team here, fighting to get the truth out & wake people up. The greatest danger for us right now is being uniformed.

Peace