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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:38 PM
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Nineteen insurgents killed in Baghdad clashes: US general (+6 civilians)
Edited on Sun May-09-04 12:39 PM by Barrett808
BAGHDAD (AFP) - Nineteen Iraqi insurgents were killed in four separate clashes with US-led forces in Baghdad, US Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt told reporters.

"There were about four different incidents going on in Baghdad today, resulting in a total of three Iraqi police killed, six civilians killed, eight police wounded and nine civilians wounded," he said.

He also said a "total of 19 enemy" were killed in clashes involving US forces and followers of radical Shiite cleric Moqtada Sadr.

Eighteen of those were killed at the cleric's stronghold in the Shiite slum district of Sadr city when US forces moved to break up checkpoints put up by his forces there.

And in central Baghdad, four men wearing the black of Sadr's Mehdi Army fired at police from the top of a building.

(more)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040509/wl_afp/iraq_us_unrest_toll&cid=1512&ncid=1480
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:41 PM
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1. I am unable...
to believe one single word that originates in the maladministration.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:52 PM
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4. I feel the same
I don't believe a single word from this regime.

And of course, in the midst of the media-worthy horrors from Iraq (the shattered bodies of the "shock and awe" victims aren't newsworthy, for some reason), its important for the "effort" that we be reminded there are bad people over there that we are fighting.

This one's an insurgent, this one's a civilian...sure.

We're in their effin country.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:46 PM
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2. glorious victory is imminant....
Edited on Sun May-09-04 12:46 PM by mike_c
:puke:

We've got the "insurgents" right where we want them....
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:48 PM
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3. 19 dead" terrorists"
and 9 good guys killed and 18 wounded. sounds like a bad day to me
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MajorFlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 01:01 PM
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5. Why do we continue to call them "insurgents"? It sure looks
like they are defending their own country against the real insurgents--us.
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abracadabra Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 03:01 PM
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11. YES--let's bring this point up constantly ! - "insurgents"?= resistance
our own US troops ARE THE INSURGENTS--
under the commander in chimp
in the name of" HELLiberton"
We are in THEIR country-
They want us barbarians out now-
in their eyes Americans kill rape and torture them-

We here at home keep out leaders in place-
We support the whole deal by not impeaching this entire administration-
We are guilty of not purging our own dictator--


IRAQi insurgents are RESISTANCE
let's call them what they are
and
admit we have no business taking over countries and imposing military law.
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 03:09 PM
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13. Not according to rightie..
rightie says: The laws against fighting an occupying force were written for hostile army occupation, not against liberating army occupation.

thus rightie argues that since the US is(was) a liberating army, the Iraqi's shouldn't be fighting us.. Incredible how these people think..
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abracadabra Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 04:51 PM
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16. guess they could be called "RIGHT SUPREMISTS" !
just a new term I just came up with !

Right Supremists!
Kinda has a ring to it eh?

Maybe we should incorporate the term into the Election campaign to remove the Commander in Chimp
something like:
Freedom and equality for All !
The "Right" Supremists have no place in our government !!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 03:07 PM
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12. They are "freedom fighters".
IMO
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 03:17 PM
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15. I agree Kentuck
One engaged in resistance against an oppressive invading government.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 01:50 PM
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6. More details: Tanks Push into Holy City ("at least 34 Iraqis" dead)
US forces stepped up pressure on Shiite gunmen loyal to radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr today, pushing with tanks into the holy city of Kufa and assaulting militia positions in the narrow streets of a Shiite enclave in Baghdad.

The violence killed at least 34 Iraqis.

...

The heaviest fighting in Baghdad came when fighters from al-Sadr’s Al-Mahdi Army militia attacked police stations and set up checkpoints in the Shiite neighbourhood of Sadr City, a heavily populated district in the eastern part of the capital, Kimmitt said.

US troops moved in and secured two police stations in fighting that killed 18 militiamen, Kimmitt said.

Earlier, an explosion tore apart shops in a market in the western Biyaa district. The blast went off when police tried to dismantle two bombs found in vendors’ stalls, witnesses said. Four people were killed and 17 were wounded, according to the Health Ministry. Kimmitt said three people were killed.

At the same time, gunmen opened fire on a US patrol in western Baghdad, sparking a firefight that killed three Iraqi police, two civilians and one of the attackers, Kimmitt said. Fighters attacked another patrol in the centre of the capital, wounding two Iraqi policemen.

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http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2901403
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 01:53 PM
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7. Have you noticed yet
that the glorious press has yet to tell us what Army of the Maahdi means?

It is the Army of the Prophet.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 01:57 PM
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8. There is no justification for any of this anymore
- No WMD.
- Saddam out of power.
- widespread popular resistance.
- use of torture, rape, and murder by occupying forces to suppress dissent (lets not forget illegal confinement - most prisoners don't see a lawyer or judge for months, many never have an actual charge laid).
- international condemnation.

This invasion and occupation was always wrong, but now it is debasing and corrupting everything it touches. The U.S. has to get out.

P.S. I see (on CNN today) the attack dog photos are coming out now too.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 02:29 PM
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9. Another DUer pointed to the similarity between these "kills" and
the way the kills started being reported in Vietnam when it was obvious we wouldn't win there.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 02:58 PM
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10. Meanwhile, it was reported VERY quietly that 28 troops were KIA this week.
Given the Vietnam-style casualty reporting of the past few weeks, I'm quite sure that virtually no one is aware of the fact that the death rate among our troops is just as high in May as it was in April.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 03:09 PM
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14. Why aren't they reporting our troop deaths for the past 24 hours?
In our local military force alone, two were killed.. why not a word in our mainstream media? Being asked not to report the deaths? Or perhaps now that a famous football player was killed, any troop member dying in groups of less than 10 are overlooked as unimportant to the media. Sad.
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