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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:32 PM
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Bush shown abuse photos at Pentagon briefing
WASHINGTON (AFP) - President George W. Bush was shown a sample of photos depicting a range of abuses carried out by US troops against Iraqi prisoners, at a Pentagon briefing with US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

"The secretary showed him a kind of representative sample of a relatively small number," a senior defense official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"He showed him kind of a range of the activities that are available."

Bush was shown large, color prints of the photographs during a briefing at the Pentagon on the situation in Iraq (news - web sites) that lasted for a little more than an hour.

(more)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040510/pl_afp/us_prisoner_iraq_bush&cid=1521&ncid=1480
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:34 PM
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1. That would explain the smile on Cheney's face.
Edited on Mon May-10-04 01:34 PM by lovedems
He is such a sick, evil bastard.

So after large, color prints, he has the balls to come out and praise Rummy?

They are all going to hell.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:42 PM
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28. He obtains arousal through acts of Violence
There's a name for this condition that escapes me.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:36 PM
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2. A Sample??????? He was shown a sample???????
How can you be the f*cking president of the United States - Commander in Chief - trying to handle a scandel of epic proportions - and not want to see everything there is out there.

Clearly he is being protected from something that is beyond our worse nightmare. Oh wait, he is our worst nightmare.
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benfranklin1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:45 PM
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13. Its that gnatlike attention span. The meeting was less than an hour.
It did not matter the depth of the horror depicted in the pictures, his "mind" was made up going in that Rumsfeld would stay. Everything else was a dog and pony show for the cameras to show he was "engaged." The sheer criminality of he and his coconspirators is indeed our democracy's worse nightmare.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:45 PM
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14. My guess would be a "mild" sample to protect his "beautiful" mind. n/t
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:47 PM
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16. Could it be that they're still not showing him the worst?
These descriptions certainly don't sound like Iraqi guards raping young boys...
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 03:20 PM
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34. He was only shown the "good" ones so he could go back to the WH
and masturbate to them! - Don't you know!

I bet he sprung a woody all the way home after that!

Just like his sick "deck of cards".

I thought it was bizarre when THAT came out, but since then....sigh.
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 03:24 PM
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35. More Manipulation of a MORON 101
not that it lets the Weasel in the White House off the hook. Miserable failure POS. Sheeple ought to have a sense of how much Bush *loves* 'meriKa when he allows them to show him only a sample for Keeerist's sake.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 04:36 PM
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42. And why did it take an hour
to view 'samples'? Was there a little mess to clean up under the table after he viewed them?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:38 PM
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3. at least 3 videos?? are there more?
Edited on Mon May-10-04 01:39 PM by maddezmom
He said the images included hundreds of photographic images and at least three videos contained on three computer discs.


DiRita, who also has seen the images, said they were "broadly consistent with what we've already seen."


"They were disturbing. There are some involving humiliation of a nature we've already seen," he said.


"There is clearly inappropriate behavior, including some inappropriate behavior of a sexual nature," he said.

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sexual behavior??? does that include the rape of a female detainee???
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Tummler Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:38 PM
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4. Bush then requested to examine the photos in private
...along with a box of tissues and a jumbo tub of petroleum jelly.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:50 PM
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18. A view inside the broom closet (pic)
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 04:36 PM
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41. LOL!!!
:kick:
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:39 PM
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5. news release: THREE compact discs....OMG....and bush* actually
Edited on Mon May-10-04 01:49 PM by amen1234
travels to the pentagoon to oogle and cream privately before telling America:

Rumsfeld is a great guy...it's doing a wonderful job...we all enjoyed the previews of POW sex-torture snuff operation and give rummy a GOOD JOB, thumbs up, and more war-profiteer taxpayers funds....keep up the wonderful work...


"He said the images included hundreds of photographic images and at least three videos contained on three computer discs."


bush* says the rummy is doing a GREAT JOB...keep up the good work rummy...the commander-in-chief LOVES your work...


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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:42 PM
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7. "hundreds of photographic images and at least three videos "
remember this is still just a small number of bad apples ruining it for the rest of them...

NOT!

:puke:
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Tummler Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:43 PM
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9. Three CD-ROMS! Wow...
I can see it now: the Repugs will market a DVD box set of these pictures and videos. Titled "Iraq's Funniest Home Videos," these hilarious "bloopers" will include "wacky" sound effects and commentary.
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Shadder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:53 PM
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21. Yeah, I picked up on that also.
Before this, we were aware of two CD's. Now all of a sudden we have 3 to choose from.

But the thing that really got me was this:

The spokesman said discussions were still underway with members of Congress on whether to make a public release of the images, and if so how. "But the emphasis right now is whether," DiRita said. However, he said, "we haven't ruled it in or out." DiRita said a major stumbling block is the concern that release of the images could have an adverse impact on prosecution of the soldiers involved in the abuse.

So thats gonna be the excuse for not letting them out in public. Boy, is it gonna be fun when the copies that the media have are leaked out....

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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 04:40 PM
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43. also said 'privacy issues' for not releasing photos
that's always a great excuse.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:41 PM
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6. I don't believe this!
"He showed him kind of a range of the activities that are available."

Activities????? Torture is classified as ACTIVITIES? Holy crap!
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:42 PM
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8. it wasn't torture
it was torture-related program activities :crazy:
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:51 PM
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19. I wonder what they'll use to sweep this under the rug
Luckily, they have some dual-use multi-role interrogation tools...


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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:44 PM
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10. The range of 'activities' these 'folks' were engaged in
they know how to make torture sound so cuddly...
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comsymp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:45 PM
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12. Activities that are AVAILABLE, mind you-
Does that sound reminescent of sitting with the Madam in the parlor of a bordello and perusing the girls' portfolios, or what?
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:56 PM
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22.  The word "activities" is generally used in conjunction with another word:
"planned". As in, "planned activities". :mad:

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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 03:47 PM
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37. that quote is insane. they are insane.
but you would think they wouldn't describe it like Shrub was choosing what to eat at a buffet.

that quote is insane.
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 04:51 PM
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45. Name your "pleasure?" Pretty sick.
What kind of a dog and pony show was this prison running anyway. Name your choice of torture? Must have been an asylum run amuk! "Well sir, I 'll use the dogs for a bit, my fist is sore from beating those rag heads!"
:cry:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:23 PM
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47. Sounds like what Bush would be told on visiting the Mustang Ranch
kind of like a promo on a cross section of the Kama Sutra available rather than something grotesque. If it involves child rape, it doesn't get any worse than that. Calling it "activities" is itself grotesque.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:44 PM
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11. George's most fun day in the presidency.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:46 PM
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15. As much as I detest Bush
I find it difficult to imagine that anyone would enjoy seeing these pictures.
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comsymp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:48 PM
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17. Well, folks obviously enjoyed taking 'em-
Not hard to imagine that there'd be an eager audience for 'em...
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:52 PM
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20. Remember, this is the same man delighted in mimicking
Karla Faye Tucker as she was about to be put to death, he is capable of anything, imo.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:18 PM
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25. You mean the guy who mocked carla fay Tucker's plea for life? The guy
who smirked while talking about executions in a debate? The guy who blew up frogs as a kid and BB gunned his brother? Nope. Not hard to see it at all. 2 things I believe about W: he is mean (sadistic) and greedy. Everything else is speculation.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:48 PM
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31. yup
Laura better get ready, I bet George will be feeling frisky tonight. :puke:
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 04:41 PM
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44. See anything you especially liked, George?
Hard to decide. :shrug:

:kick:
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:56 PM
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23. "Har har, we did that to folks in college!"
Thanks for the memories!
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nagbacalan Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:48 PM
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32. Moyers on Limbaugh --Friday
Brilliant! That juxtaposition of the photos with cretin's radio words should be given the widest possible circulation.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:10 PM
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24. Another justification for withholding the pictures will be:
To spare the families the anguish that it would cause. They will be purposefully vague about whether they mean the families of the torturers or the victims.

You can count on this one.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:20 PM
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26. Also, W needs them for his private pleasure - err- study.
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 05:01 PM
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46. Also the photos might not look good in a resume
if these guards apply for a job after *they* serve time in the brigg.
:crazy:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:41 PM
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27. Again! He makes an apt at the Pentagon for viewing photos that should
have been specially delivered to his office and viewed w/Cheney, Rice, Rumy and Powell.. I'm not buying this charade!
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:43 PM
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29. Then Took Male Enhancement Pills and Spanked Each Other's Monkeys n/t
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:48 PM
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30. THIS WAS DONE TO PROTECT MYERS SORRY HANGING ASS
I wonder if he and Myers discussed how Myers has to help him get re-elected.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:49 PM
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33. I wonder if someone knows Myers is lying?
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 03:44 PM
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36. The fish is watching itself rot.
The Bush administration is putrid, from the head down.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 04:01 PM
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39. I wonder if this excited him?
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 04:07 PM
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40. Did he purse his lips and say in a high voice...
"Oh, please, Mr. MP, don't torture me!"
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