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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:27 PM
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(CACI) Contractor: Army Happy With Interrogators
ARLINGTON, Va. - The chief executive of a defense contractor that provides civilian interrogators to the scandal-ridden Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq (news - web sites) said the Army is pleased with its work and that its employees fully understand they are under military authority.


"It's been reported to us that we're doing a fine job. That's from our customer (the Army), and those are the people who count," J.P. "Jack" London said Monday in a telephone interview.


One of CACI's interrogators was criticized in an internal Army report for helping to facilitate the physical and sexual abuse documented against detainees at the Abu Ghraib prison.


~snip~

Central Command spokeswoman Col. Jill Morgenthaler said Monday in an e-mailed response to a question that she has "no opinion" on whether the interrogator in question should still be working.

~snip~

more: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=736&e=4&u=/ap/20040510/ap_on_re_mi_ea/prisoner_abuse_contractors


Unfreakingbelievable...........A fine job :puke:
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:28 PM
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1. I can't BELIEVE they're actually spinning this crap!
We have lost our national soul. RIP, America.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:40 PM
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3. "get out of jail free card" seems to be in the works for CACI n/t
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:29 PM
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2. So we are once again witnessing a lack of outrage from this administration
Heads should have rolled after 9-11, heads should have rolled after no WMD's, heads should roll now but won't.

Just more of the same ho-hum response to national tragedies.
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:42 PM
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4. Doing a "fine job" ?
:wtf:

... this "fine job" exists in their *beautiful minds*...
Save us from this stupidity!
:eyes:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:43 PM
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5. I think a lawsuit is required - initiated by legal counsel of Congress, if
that is plausible.

The lawsuit has to be brought against Cheney, Rumsfeld, and every other neo-con that wrote the plan - plus their civilian suppliers and contractees.

There are enough reasons -

They're plan was not complete.
Huge amounts of money have disappeared.
They didn't provide enough supplies and coverage causing death and maiming.
They lied and lie incessantly.
They have humiliated the human beings in Iraq and the U.S. of America. They have tortured human beings.

Bush is a zed, a marionette. But, include him if preferred.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:52 PM
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6. Hmmm. From the FULL text of Taguba's report (not the exec summary)
47. (U) Mr. Steve Stephanowicz, US civilian Contract Interrogator, CACI, 205th MI Brigade

<snip>

11. (U) That Mr. Steven Stephanowicz, Contract US Civilian Interrogator, CACI,
205th Military Intelligence Brigade, be given an Official Reprimand to be placed in
his employment file, termination of employment, and generation of a derogatory
report to revoke his security clearance for the following acts
which have been
previously referred to in the aforementioned findings:

• Made a false statement to the investigation team regarding the locations of his
interrogations, the activities during his interrogations, and his knowledge of
abuses.

• Allowed and/or instructed MPs, who were not trained in interrogation
techniques, to facilitate interrogations by “setting conditions” which were
neither authorized and in accordance with applicable regulations/policy. He
clearly knew his instructions equated to physical abuse.

12. (U) That Mr. John Israel, Contract US Civilian Interpreter, CACI, 205th
Military Intelligence Brigade, be given an Official Reprimand to be placed in his
employment file and have his security clearance reviewed by competent authority for
the following acts or concerns
which have been previously referred to in the
aforementioned findings:

• Denied ever having seen interrogation processes in violation of the IROE,
which is contrary to several witness statements.
• Did not have a security clearance.

13. (U) I find that there is sufficient credible information to warrant an Inquiry UP
Procedure 15, AR 381-10, US Army Intelligence Activities, be conducted to
determine the extent of culpability of MI personnel, assigned to the 205th MI Brigade
and the Joint Interrogation and Debriefing Center (JIDC) at Abu Ghraib (BCCF).
Specifically, I suspect that COL Thomas M. Pappas, LTC Steve L. Jordan, Mr.
Steven Stephanowicz, and Mr. John Israel were either directly or indirectly
responsible for the abuses at Abu Ghraib (BCCF) and strongly recommend immediate
disciplinary action
as described in the preceding paragraphs as well as the initiation of
a Procedure 15 Inquiry to determine the full extent of their culpability. (ANNEX 36)

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/pdf/0505041report.pdf
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:53 PM
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7. Steven Stephanowicz
read a story today about him (looking for the link). A real piece of work. A drifter who ended up in Australia for a while where people who know him said he had trouble keeping a job "because he would freak out on his employers". Then he started bragging that he was going to "work for the CIA".
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:10 PM
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9. I THINK HE'S THE FAT BASTARD IN THE MIDDLE
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:16 PM
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10. saigon68 would you possibly know of a picture of Joe Ryan
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:16 PM
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11. I have this
Edited on Mon May-10-04 09:21 PM by seemslikeadream
25 April 2004

I got to take the rest of the day off after our long booth time. This gave us a nice evening after dinner to head to the roof and play a round of golf. Scott Norman, Jeff Mouton, Steve Hattabaugh, Steve Stefanowicz, and I all took turns trying to hit balls over the back wall and onto the highway. Since the club is a left handed 3 iron, I had an unfair advantage and missed a dump truck by only about ten feet. Not bad since the highway is about 220 yards. We do what we can to make it fun here.

http://www.thesyndrome.com/archives/00000856.htm

This guy should have been gone by 25, supposed to be fired


"Scott Norman, Jeff Mouton, Steve Hattabaugh, Steve Stefanowicz, and I all took turns trying to hit balls over the back wall and on to the highway. Since the club is a left-handed 3 iron, I had an unfair advantage and missed a dump truck by only about 10 feet ... We do what we can to make it fun here."

Mr Stefanowicz, 35, a former naval reserve officer also employed by Arlington-based CACI International as an interrogator, became a reservist in the aftermath of the terror attacks of September 2001. A CACI official said last week that Mr Stefanowicz was "by all accounts doing a damn fine job". But Major General Antonio Taguba, who carried out an investigation into the abuses at Abu Ghraib, believed Mr Stefanowicz was one of the people "either directly or indirectly responsible for the abuses at Abu Ghraib"... SOURCE

I got to take the rest of the day off after our long booth time. This gave us a nice evening after dinner to head to the roof and play a round of golf. Scott Norman, Jeff Mouton, Steve Hattabaugh, Steve Stefanowicz, and I all took turns trying to hit balls over the back wall and onto the highway. Since the club is a left handed 3 iron, I had an unfair advantage and missed a dump truck by only about ten feet. Not bad since the highway is about 220 yards. We do what we can to make it fun here.


It has been a long week at work and I will be taking tomorrow off. Scott Norman and I have been putting together the results of the interrogations from our recent guests. Scott has been putting together great association matrixes and I put together a smart book outlining all the intelligence gathered on this particular group to date . The Marines loved it and our stuff was 90% of their presentation to their Commanding General yesterday. It is a wonderful feeling to be able to put together stuff that helps the troops on the ground.



http://www.thesyndrome.com/archives/00000856.htm
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:21 PM
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21. Thanks! And I made a mistake.... That was not the "full text"
Edited on Mon May-10-04 10:23 PM by Tinoire
just a copy of the Exec Summary parading as the "full text" (the corporate media strikes again!) Seems we'll never see the 'real' full text because it's over 2 feet high.

Check this out: http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen05102004.html

I am stil researching this. It addresses your concern bit I want more than this.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:24 PM
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22. Correction- that is STILL not the full text! n/t
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:06 PM
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8. This is so the silver lining,...
,...and I hope these companies try to compensate or "market".

I am in the middle of "america" and her most precious of "basic" people.

They may be simple, they may be disillusioned, they may be angry and they may be confused: BUT, they are all human and they have all learned from the past.

"Companies" never equate to humanity. People GET that,...and the more they spend on advertising towards consuming us all,...the more they are surely eating themselves up. I will enjoy witnessing that form of cannibalism,...let them eat themselves alive.
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gate of the sun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:31 PM
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12. They are not sorry
not bush or any of them and backhandedly they are letting everyone know. They won't come out and blantantly say it but they are saying it. I don't believe anything other than a direct act of congress to impeach them will get anyone sorry for anything they have done. Then they will only be sorry they were held to account.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:34 PM
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13. CACI says interrogators were screened properly
05/10/04

CACI says interrogators were screened properly

By Roseanne Gerin
Staff Writer

CACI International Inc. said Sunday that it carefully screened all prospective interrogators before sending them to Iraq and followed the military’s requirements for interrogators and “other allied specialties.”

In a statement responding to allegations that its employees participated in the abuse of Iraqi detainees, CACI sought to clarify what it said were “erroneous comments reported in the media” about the qualifications of its employees working in Iraq, their supervision by the military and the company’s recruiting process.

The company’s contract with the military required workers with demonstrated information-gathering and analysis experience who had Defense Department “secret” level security clearances, which call for a government background check.

CACI also said that the military specified it would provide readiness training, rules-of-engagement briefings and general orders applicable to contractors.
http://www.washingtontechnology.com/news/1_1/daily_news/23504-1.html


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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:35 PM
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14. The Israeli Torture Template
The Israeli Torture Template
Rape, Feces and Urine-Dipped Cloth Sacks
By WAYNE MADSEN

With mounting evidence that a shadowy group of former Israeli Defense Force and General Security Service (Shin Bet) Arabic-speaking interrogators were hired by the Pentagon under a classified "carve out" sub-contract to brutally interrogate Iraqi prisoners at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison, one only needs to examine the record of abuse of Palestinian and Lebanese prisoners in Israel to understand what Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld meant, when referring to new, yet to be released photos and videos, he said, "if these images are released to the public, obviously its going to make matters worse."

According to a political appointee within the Bush administration and U.S. intelligence sources, the interrogators at Abu Ghraib included a number of Arabic-speaking Israelis who also helped U.S. interrogators develop the "R2I" (Resistance to Interrogation) techniques. Many of the torture methods were developed by the Israelis over many years of interrogating Arab prisoners on the occupied West Bank and in Israel itself.

Clues about worse photos and videos of abuse may be found in Israeli files about similar abuse of Palestinian and other Arab prisoners. In March 2000, a lawyer for a Lebanese prisoner kidnapped in 1994 by the Israelis in Lebanon claimed that his client had been subjected to torture, including rape. The type of compensation offered by Rumsfeld in his testimony has its roots in cases of Israeli torture of Arabs. In the case of the Lebanese man, said to have been raped by his Israeli captors, his lawyer demanded compensation of $1.47 million. The Public Committee Against Torture in Israel documented the types of torture meted out on Arab prisoners. Many of the tactics coincide with those contained in the Taguba report: beatings and prolonged periods handcuffed to furniture. In an article in the December 1998 issue of The Progressive, Rabbi Lynn Gottlieb reported on the treatment given to a 23-year old Palestinian held on "administrative detention." The prisoner was "cuffed behind a chair 17 hours a day for 120 days . . . had his head covered with a sack, which was often dipped in urine or feces. Guards played loud music right next to his ears and frequently taunted him with threats of physical and sexual violence." If additional photos and videos document such practices, the Bush administration and the American people have, indeed, "seen nothing yet."

Although it is still largely undocumented if any of the contractor named in the report of General Antonio Taguba were associated with the Israeli military or intelligence services, it is noteworthy that one, John Israel, who was identified in the report as being employed by both CACI International of Arlington, Virginia, and Titan, Inc., of San Diego, may not have even been a U.S. citizen. The Taguba report states that Israel did not have a security clearance, a requirement for employment as an interrogator for CACI. According to CACI's web site, "a Top Secret Clearance (TS) that is current and US citizenship" are required for CACI interrogators working in Iraq. In addition, CACI requires that its interrogators "have at least two years experience as a military policeman or similar type of law enforcement/intelligence agency whereby the individual utilized interviewing techniques."
http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen05102004.html
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:37 PM
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15. CACI Worker Did Nothing Wrong, Lawyer Says
CACI Worker Did Nothing Wrong, Lawyer Says

By Ellen McCarthy
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, May 11, 2004; Page A13


A lawyer representing Steven A. Stefanowicz, an interrogator with CACI International Inc. implicated in an Army report on abuse at Abu Ghraib prison, yesterday denied that his client did anything wrong.



"Any meaningful review of the facts will inevitably lead to the conclusion that Mr. Stefanowicz's conduct was both appropriate and authorized," said Henry E. Hockeimer Jr., a partner at Hangley Aronchick Segal & Pudlin in Philadelphia.

Hockeimer declined to elaborate on the status of investigations into Stefanowicz's behavior. An internal Army report said Stefanowicz instructed military personnel to aid interrogators by "setting conditions" and that he "clearly knew his instructions equated to physical abuse." He is also accused of making false statements to investigators and was named in the report as one of four men who were found to be "either directly or indirectly" responsible for abuses at the prison.

Stefanowicz, 34, enlisted in the U.S. Naval Reserve in February 1998, according to records from the Navy. He served in Muscat, Oman, for most of 2002, and his rank is listed as intelligence specialist 3rd class. Stefanowicz, who received a number of military awards, including a medal for meritorious service, left his last post, at Willow Grove, Pa., last September.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A15899-2004May10.html
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:39 PM
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16. OP-ED: Outsourcing interrogation: the legal vacuum —Peter W Singer
OP-ED: Outsourcing interrogation: the legal vacuum —Peter W Singer

The US Army has responded swiftly, surely, and correctly. But there is a catch. Not all the reported perpetrators were actually members of our military and thus not all wore the uniform. This is the critical dilemma facing the US. Should functions such as interrogating the prisoners have been outsourced without due consideration and debate

Following reports of abuse of Iraqi prisoners by US soldiers, the army has taken prompt action against those accused of committing the outrage. Seventeen soldiers were removed from duty while six face court martial.

But there is another aspect of this sordid business that has largely gone unnoticed: the hiring of private contractors to interrogate prisoners. This takes the US army’s experiment with outsourcing to a new level. And the results are deeply disturbing.

The number of US troops may have been sufficient for fighting a swift war against the Iraqi army but the army now faces a shortage of personnel. The insurgency is growing and it has to perform a number of other tasks for which it needs to fill the gap between the demand for professional forces and the limited number deployed. It has, therefore, outsourced an array of traditional military and intelligence roles to private contractors who now number up to 20,000. The Pentagon has done this outsourcing without any public discussion or debate.

Employees of these private firms come from over 25 different countries, including from South Asia. It almost looks like President Bush has achieved his international coalition through sub-contracting — a coalition of ??billing’ rather than ‘willing’ as the administration claimed at the time of going to war.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_11-5-2004_pg3_4
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:40 PM
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17. The "babes" are coming out of the woods,...
,...from every direction. These mercenaries cannot cover their asses. No way. They have a front that they cannot conquer,...the military and their families and the people who have proven, right or left, to acknowledge the value of a strong defense system.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

The freon neocons NEVER anticipated the strength of democracy ideals killing their utopian dream of POWER,...did they???

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

They (the neocons) are actually going to be crushed by that "tool" they took for granted,...our honorable military!!!!

WOOOO HOOOO!!!!

Watch out,...you wackos,...you ain't ALL THAT!!!!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:45 PM
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18. Wall Street asks the easy questions
Observer - US

Published: May 10 2004 20:03 | Last Updated: May 10 2004 20:03

Wall Street asks the easy questions


Wall Street stock analysts have taken considerable heat for the deference they showed chief executives during the bull market years. So, given the chance to question executives from the company that employed private interrogators implicated in the abuses at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, Observer would think they would do a bit of hard-nosed interrogating themselves.

Not a chance.

During a conference call last week hosted by CACI, the Virginia-based contractor named in an Army report, most analysts struck a gentle tone with chief executive J.P. London. Some, such as John Mahoney of Raymond James, were effusive in their praise.

"I think you're doing an excellent job and I appreciate how you're dealing with this," Mahoney said, refering to the matter as a "quote-unquote scandal".

Mahoney's affection was all the more remarkable since CACI has not disciplined or suspended any of its employees working in Iraq, including one who an Army general recommended be fired for his alleged role in the abuses.

That employee was still at work and doing "a damned fine job" in Iraq, according to CACI's president of US operations Ken Johnson, who thanked Mahoney for an "excellent question".

http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStory&c=StoryFT&cid=1083180397281
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:48 PM
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19. Mercenaries fill U.S. void in Iraq
'Lack visibility'

"In the coming fiscal year, about one-third of the Army's total obligation authority will be expended for contract support," Thomas White, the former Army secretary, wrote in a March 2002 memorandum. "Currently, Army planners and programmers lack visibility at the Department level into the labor and costs associated with the contract workforce and of the organizations and missions supported by them."

In other words, the Army wasn't sure how many contractors it had or exactly what they were doing. Now that ought to cause your knees to knock.

The Pentagon's decision to pass off mercenaries as contractors is aided by media organizations. Fawning news coverage gives the Bush administration the political cover it needs to fend off calls for a draft.

And it has set this nation up for a big fall.

"Any time people are protected from scrutiny, they will misbehave," said John Steinbruner, director of the University of Maryland's Center for International Security Studies. "Some will make misjudgments; others will commit criminal acts."

Letting mercenaries cloak themselves as contractors opens up just such possibilities.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/wickham/2004-05-10-wickham_x.htm
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:56 PM
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20. My man was no torturer, says ex
My man was no torturer, says ex
By Susie O'Brien
May 10, 2004
THE former Australian-based American accused of terrorist torture was a passionate patriot, his ex-girlfriend said yesterday.

Joanna Buttfield, 33, an Adelaide health worker, has lashed out at allegations US army reservist Steve Stefanowicz is involved in the sadistic criminal abuse of Iraqi detainees.

"Steve feels compelled to protect his country and to serve his country. He's American through and through," she said yesterday.

"He is a team player, and as a result of this it's possible he's found himself in an uncontrollable position.


Mr Stefanowicz has been named as an employee of defence contractors CACI International, which is responsible for the physical abuse of prisoners inside Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison.

"There's nothing in his behaviour that makes me think he was capable of doing this; however, I don't know the situation he's working under," Ms Buttfield said.



Ms Buttfield said Mr Stefanowicz refused to discuss details of his secret life as a US Army reservist.

"We both made a conscious decision not to talk about it because there was so much he couldn't talk about," she said.

Mr Stefanowicz, a former Adelaide-based Morgan and Banks IT recruitment consultant, met Ms Buttfield in North Carolina in the US
seven years ago. They were not engaged.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,9517548%255E421,00.html
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:37 PM
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23. FACT that Richard Armitage sits on the CACI board is meaningless? No!
CACI = mercenaries and soldiers-of-fortune with a sadist streak and HIGH level government connections.

CACI say "hi" to your CIA masters...

JB
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:40 PM
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24. Richard L. Armitage former director of CACI guits to join Bush team
Richard L. Armitage former director of CACI guits to join Bush team


Civilian accused of killing ‘doing fine job’

MICHAEL SETTLE, Chief Political Correspondent May 06 2004

Executives from Virginia-based CACI International complained that they had still not been informed by their client, the US defence department, that their employee, working for the CIA as an interrogator, was involved in the abuse of inmates at Abu Ghraib jail near Baghdad.
Jack London, CACI president, said: "The fact remains we are simply not able to confirm in any fashion any CACI employee was involved in the abuse at Abu Ghraib prison."
Ken Johnson, the company's president of US operations, added: "The employee questioned is still on the site and still performing the duties there and, by all accounts from our understanding, is doing a damn fine job."
It has been suggested the CIA contractor could escape any prosecution because US Army jurisdiction does not extend to American private contractors in Iraq.

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/15501.html

Contractors act as interrogators

Control: The Pentagon's hiring of civilians to question prisoners raises accountability issues.

Founded in 1962 as a small consulting firm, CACI now has more than $1 billion in annual revenue. It specializes in information technology but also has branched into every corner of the Defense Department to become "essentially an odd-jobs provider for the federal government," according to Tim Quillin, an analyst for the investment banking firm Stephens Inc.

More than 90 percent of CACI's business comes from its main customer - the Pentagon - and other federal agencies, according to reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.


Among the company's former directors is Richard L. Armitage, who resigned in 2001 to accept an appointment from President Bush as deputy secretary of state.


http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bal-te.contractors04may04,0,7348149.s ...


But these soldiers aren’t simply mavericks. Some accused claim they acted on the orders of military intelligence and the CIA, and that some of the torture sessions were under the control of mercenaries hired by the US to conduct interrogations. Two “civilian contract” organisations taking part in interrogations at Abu Ghraib are linked to the Bush administration.
California-based Titan Corporation says it is “a leading provider of solutions and services for national security”. Between 2003-04, it gave nearly $40,000 to George W Bush’s Republican Party. Titan supplied translators to the military.
CACI International Inc. describes its aim as helping “America’s intelligence community in the war on terrorism”. Richard Armitage, the current deputy US secretary of state, sat on CACI’s board.
No civilians, however, are facing charges as military law does not apply to them. Colonel Jill Morgenthaler, from CentCom, said that one civilian contractor was accused along with six soldiers of mistreating prisoners. However, it was left to the contractor to “deal with him”. One civilian interrogator told army investigators that he had “unintentionally” broken several tables during interrogations as he was trying to “fear-up” detainees.
Lawyers for some accused say their clients are scapegoats for a rogue prison system, which allowed mercenaries to give orders to serving soldiers. A military report said private contractors were at times supervising the interrogations.
Kimmitt said: “I hope the investigation is including not only the people who committed the crimes, but some of the people who might have encouraged the crimes as well because they certainly share some responsibility.”
Last night, CACI vice-president Jody Brown said: “The company supports the Army’s investigation and acknowledges that CACI personnel in Iraq volunteered to be interviewed by army officials in connection with the investigation. The company has received no indication that any CACI employee was involved in any alleged improper conduct with Iraqi prisoners. Nonetheless, CACI has initiated an independent investigation.”
However, military investigators said: “A CACI investigator’s contract was terminated because he allowed and/or instructed military police officers who were not trained in interrogation techniques to facilitate interrogations which were neither authorised nor in accordance with regulations.”

http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:LGgQIc6IKxoJ:southafrica.indymedi ...

CACI is among an elite group of Washington area companies that do classified work for the federal government. The company, formed in the 1960s, first caught the government's eye with a computer language it developed that could be used to build battlefield simulation programs.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A5677-2004May5_2.html


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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:48 PM
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25. Richard Armitage
- Richard Armitage, Deputy Secretary of State is president and partner of Armitage Assoc. LLP, was a Boeing consultant, a Raytheon consultant and an advisory board member. Armitage was also President Bush's special emissary to Jordan's King Hussein during the 1991 Gulf War. Armitage has also worked in the past for Halliburton.
http://dc.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=45246&group=webcast

From March 1992 until 1993, Armitage as ambassador, funneled U.S. dollars into the new independent states of the former Soviet Union. In January 1992, the Bush Administration's desire to cozy up to the NIS (and their oil) resulted in Armitage's appointment as Coordinator for Emergency Humanitarian Assistance.

During this time Armitage took on the other international patronage projects that normally follow war, accommodating the assuagement of the European Community, Japan and other donor countries.

Armitage owns Electronic Data Systems stock worth $250,001 to $500,000 (EDS is the 49th largest defense contractor, and lobbies the Defense Dept. over various appropriations issues), General Electric stock worth $500,001 to $1 million, Merck & Co. stock worth $100,001 to $250,000 (Merck lobbied the Defense Dept. over the Biological Weapons Convention implementation protocol), and Verizon Communications stock worth $250,001 to $500,000.

Armitage also worked as a consultant to Halliburton. Armitage is a former co-chairman of the U.S.-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce. He was instrumental in the reconstruction of the emerging economies of the former Soviet republics, after the fall of the Communist empire; along with Condi Rice, who rode herd on the Bush cabal's bid for U.S. control of the Caspian oil.
http://www.ifpafletcherconference.com/army2000/bios/armitage_rt.htm
http://www.foreignpolicy-infocus.org/outside/commentary/2002/0204oil_b...
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 12:18 AM
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26. Interesting that this guy tells U.S. citizens and taxpayers (indirectly)
Edited on Tue May-11-04 12:21 AM by daleo
That they are not "people that count".

On edit - given the apparent legal immunity these contractors enjoy, is is any wonder that the Iraqi resistance has attacked them?
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 12:30 AM
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27. Geez, Mary an Joe, it's the corporate smoke and mirrors, subsidiary scam.
They do it with money (it's called laundering in RICO trials), influence (it's called experience in the prospectus) and accountability (it's called deniability).

"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together." Dwight D. Eisenhower
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:31 AM
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28. A Case of Criminal Intent!
This was planned for long ago, folks. The mercenary thugs hired by our govt will never see the justice of a courtroom. The Bushreich's feigned shock at the torture of Iraqi prisoners may fool some, but they had obviously, methodically, and legally prepared themselves to commit just such war crimes. This is a clear case of criminal intent!

http://www.globalpolicy.org/empire/analysis/2003/0807bigrogue.htm

5. International Criminal Court (ICC) Treaty, 1998. Set up in The Hague to try political leaders and military personnel charged with war crimes and crimes against humanity. Concluded in Rome in July 1998, the Treaty was signed by 120 countries. Although President Clinton signed the Treaty in December 2000, he announced that the US would oppose it, along with 6 others (including China, Russia, and Israel). In May 2002 the Bush administration announced that it was "unsigning"--renouncing--the Treaty, something the US had never before done, and that it will neither recognize the Court's jurisdiction nor furnish any information to help the Court bring cases against any individuals. In July 2002 the ICC went into force after being ratified by more than the required number of 60 nations, including Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy and Spain (Russia now having signed but not ratified).

Throughout 2002 and 2003, the US worked to scuttle the treaty by signing bilateral agreements not to send each other's citizens before the ICC. By mid-2003 the US had signed 37 mutual immunity pacts, mostly with poor, small countries in Africa, Asia, Central America, and Eastern Europe. Threatened with the loss of $73 million in US aid, for example, Bosnia signed such a deal. In July 2003 the Bush administration suspended all military assistance to 35 countries which refused to pledge to give US citizens immunity before the ICC.


More at:
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=13055

And of the American Servicemen's Protection Act mentioned at the above link, the following snippet from http://www.mail-archive.com/balkannews@yahoogroups.com/msg00490.html ( a must read!)

Actually, the immunity deals sought by Washington protect not only uniformed soldiers and government officials, but all US citizens as well as foreign contractors working for the Pentagon or other US agencies. Presumably, any American mercenary engaged in war crimes in another country would be immune from prosecution, as would any foreign mercenary working under the direction of US military or intelligence.
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this_side_up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:51 AM
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29.  How to find deleted photos??

steves.jpg
480 x 711 pixels - 56k
www.sosueme.org/ steve_stefanowicz.htm steve12.jpg


426 x 640 pixels - 60k
www.sosueme.org/ steve_stefanowicz1.htm


Searching Google Images, the above is what
comes up but....no photos appear.


I wonder if this is him?
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