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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:55 PM
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DRUDGE: Photos show American soldiers having sex with one another.
Edited on Mon May-10-04 09:55 PM by MikeG
www.drudgereport.com


Pentagon possesses three disks of photos, one of which includes some brief video clips. Many of the photos are redundant, and some have little to do with Iraqi detainees but show sex between U.S. soldiers... Pentagon officials prevailed at least temporarily in their insistence that the administration not immediately release the images, which include the forced masturbation of a detainee...


FOR SANTORUM'S SAKE LET'S HOPE IT'S NOT MAN ON DOG SEX.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:57 PM
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1. Ummm....sex amongst US soldiers....
Is it me, or are they also trying to place a bead on homosexuals?
There's something way outta line here and if this were true,
homosexuals in this country could suddenly become scapegoats.
This is bad folks...really bad.
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:59 PM
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3. They should be making war, not love.
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Resin Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 11:01 PM
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20. heh
Make war, not love... it's safer.
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Isere Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:41 AM
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40. LOL!
You made my morning with that quip!
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:59 PM
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5. This most likely refers to Lynndie
having sex with her boyfriend in front of prisoners. At least that's what the pundits are talking about.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:23 PM
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14. 5mos pregnant n/t
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 05:12 AM
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35. If true, they'll emphasise that
The Pentagon and WH been trying to make it seem like these were that unauthorized actions of a few depraved individuals. If there are pictures of those two that could be used to further the image of them being depraved individuals acting on their own, it will focus the furry on their personalities rather than on the systemic failure that allowed all the various abuses to happen.

I'd like to think the Pentagon on it's own has taken draconian steps to prevent further abuse ... the main thing now is showing the world that we're holding everybody accountable - a la Lindsay Graham's line of questioning. If Bush aligns himself with Rumsfeld, Rumsfeld goes down somehow and Americans oust Bush in Nov, that's probably the best damage control we can hope for as a nation.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 09:02 AM
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44. there's nothing wrong with a little healthy exhibitionism...
without exhibitionists, we voyeurs would be SOL...
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loathesomeshrub Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:59 PM
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6. I bet its female and male soldiers eom
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:37 AM
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37. Who knows? I trend to think it is male & female soldiers
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:06 PM
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11. Homosexual sex among the troops would be the complete diversion
Bush needs something with the thermonuclear impact that this would have to get out from under the microscope right now. That's exactly something they would do too.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 11:00 PM
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19. Well, for his xtian fundies hell-bent on a religious crackdown....
here at home, especially against gays...this could be the fuel that
they need.
Sex between two consenting, male-female adults really doesn't
stir anybody's boat...ergo, my concern that they might use this
as an anti-gay/liberal tool.
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 09:16 AM
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46. Sex between two consenting, male-female adults really doesn't
Edited on Tue May-11-04 09:16 AM by Drifter
stir anybody's boat.

Unless you are the Democratic President of the US.

Cheers
Drifter
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:47 AM
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43. ummmmm
there are certainly female U.S. soldiers

Perhaps Gen Karpinski? or Pfc England?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:58 PM
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2. Drudge is NOT a "news source". How many times do we have to do this?
Drudge the mud is merely a news collector,...and this thread is MUCH better than that!!!!

FUCK the HO DRUDGE!!!!
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:00 PM
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7. It was a vehicle to get my "man on dog sex" joke in.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 04:47 AM
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34. Which FYI was a pretty good one
;-)
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:58 AM
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42. I occasionally contact the Senate about the issue of Senator on dog sex.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 05:16 AM
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36. Agreed, but
Sy Hersh said the same on a Sunday morning show, so in this case Drudge is likely correct.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 09:05 AM
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45. Drudge is quite often, in fact usually correct...
too many people on high horses around here...
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:59 PM
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4. This is going to get MUCH worse...
before it gets better, if it gets better. The pics of the soldiers having sex, well quite frankly, big deal, as long as it was consensual. The forced masturbation of a detainee...my God....

I'm numbed and speechless.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:07 PM
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12. Don't forget
It was consensual sex between two adults that almost brought down a presidency.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 11:58 PM
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27. Makes me wonder
If consensual sex almost brought down a Presidency...why in the heck isn't this bringing on a revolution?
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:01 PM
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8. Who gives a shit
They're playing up these photos to cover over the rape and torture photographs which we already know exist. This is little more than programming notes for Limbaugh and Hannity. Non-story.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 11:31 PM
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25. Necrophilia. Anal rape of children. Rape of virgin women. Big story.
Bush people going down, down, down.
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R Hickey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:50 AM
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39. Is the glass half full or half empty...
On the plus side, at least our prison guards haven't mixed their nacrophilia with pedophilia in the same photographs...so to my knowledge, they arn't f*cking dead babies yet, at least not on camera.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 04:17 AM
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32. and murder...
Sy Hersh said an Iraqi was murdered and there is photographic evidence. I agree, this is a diversion and Drudge is doing his usual dutiful job.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:01 PM
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9. I've got a dog for Rick
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:05 PM
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10. Stand up straight, maggot!!!
WOOF! YES! WOOF!
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iowa_democrat Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:10 PM
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13. probably england and the father of her child
There have been rumors that Miss England (or whatever her name is) and the BF were doing the nasty on video. She is the one stateside pregnant now.

Iowa Democrat
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:25 PM
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15. That is what they reported on Countdown
England and the thumbs up dude with her( forgot his name). Had sex on video and she is pregnant with his baby or whatever it is. Englands lawyers were on and said she was forced to act like she did, but could not comment on the sex video.
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makhno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:43 PM
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17. Spc. Charles Graner, war criminal.
Edited on Mon May-10-04 10:45 PM by makhno
The "forced to act" business gets tiresome. That excuse was already stale when David Berkowitz claimed his dog made him do it back in '77.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:58 PM
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18. yeah
she looked so anguished in those photos. :puke:
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 11:04 PM
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21. And now we know why she had a cigarette in her mouth
}(
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 04:09 AM
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31. Yeah, guess it
was so good for her it required a cigarette afterward. :smoke: :puke:
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:25 PM
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16. Temps of 167 or 176 n/t
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 11:11 PM
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22. whatever keeps them from raping the detainees.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 11:13 PM
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23. This sounds minor, compared to the rape, murder, etc. stuff rumored
However, if it was Lynde England and Grainer, there was talk earlier that it wasn't just sex, but sex in front of the prisoners, which would be considered shameful to watch by Moslems. At least that is something I recall reading earlier.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 11:17 PM
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24. "Sadistic" and "exhibitionist"
were the terms used to describe the sex between England and Graner that was photographed. (Television news, either ABC or NBC.)
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 11:31 PM
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26. Thanks for the update
I had heard of the exhibitionist part, but that was all so far. It is tough to keep up with this news - sadistic can only be very bad, in this context, so I retract my statement that it "sounds minor".
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ProdigalProfligate Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 12:47 AM
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28. Bush's reaction
There is an unofficial report that when GWB was looking at the new pictures he put his hands in his pockets and readjusted himself. I wonder if he ran off to the bathroom right after.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 12:58 AM
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29. We'll never know unless we bring back Kenneth Starr.
This kind of stuff is right up his alley.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:53 AM
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41. Excellent idea. Starr is the top republican semen sleuth.
He will get to the bottom of this.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:41 AM
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30. Gee, Wonder If The Clinton Military Was Ever Like This?
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 04:27 AM
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33. Breaking: Photos show New York couple having sex with one another
Only on Drudge, which appeals to sexually repressed republicans, and on DU, where sex is not allowed as a discussion topic, would evidence that soldiers have sex be considered latest breaking news.

I can't believe I opened this thread. I can't believe I'm responding. I think I'm losing it.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 09:37 AM
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47. If it's true it will be just what rummy et all need to
exculpate themselves from blame. Sadism and torture is something Bush's base understand, but basic human sexuality, that is a mortal sin. If no one is being victimized by the sex, i.e. if there is no violence in it, well, that's the dirtiest, most obscene thing on the earth. Of course it was offensive to the prisoners, but if I were being tortured I'd say let them hump all they want, as long as you are giving me a break.

I really don't care if the entire military had a daisy chain on the prison floor, I refuse to blame anyone but Bush, Rice, Cheney, Powell, and Tenet, and then down from there. Of course you can go further back to Katherine Harris and Jeb, too. And where the hell were the commanding officers in all this?

This is so much like file-sharing in a way. The powers that be let technology get ahead of them once again, and now they are trying to pick up the pieces. I can't believe they did not foresee this happening. After the Pamela and Tommy Lee video, everybody knows what can possibly happen.
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