Mistreatment Of Detainees Went Beyond Guards' Abuse

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/washpost/20040511/ts_washpost/a15492_2004may10&e=3


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U.S.-led forces routinely rounded up Iraqis and then denied or restricted their rights under the Geneva Conventions during months of confinement, including rights to legal representation and family visits, the sources said.

In a report in February, the Red Cross stated that some military intelligence officers estimated that 70 percent to 90 percent of "the persons deprived of their liberty in Iraq had been arrested by mistake." Of the 43,000 Iraqis who have been imprisoned at some point during the occupation, only about 600 have been referred to Iraqi authorities for prosecution, according to U.S. officials.

The Red Cross study, posted Monday on the Wall Street Journal's Web site, concludes that the arrest and detention practices employed by U.S.-led forces in Iraq "are prohibited under International Humanitarian Law."

Now, facing international outcry over photographs of prisoner abuse less than two months before the planned handover of sovereignty to an interim Iraqi government on June 30, U.S. officials plan to dramatically reduce the number of Iraqis in military custody, from more than 8,000 to fewer than 2,000, according to people with knowledge of the issue. The release will send legions of prisoners, many of them angry and hardened by their incarceration, home to Sunni Muslim-dominated parts of north-central Iraq where resistance to the U.S. occupation has been fiercest.

SCHINDLER'S LIST



Ralph Fiennes plays a chilling Amon Goeth in the movie, and plays him to the point that some
people have had trouble distinguishing him from the real thing.

Poldek Pfefferberg, one of the Schindler Jews, famously said, "When you saw Göeth, you saw
death."



GENERAL MYERS TRIBUTE TO AMON GOETH



THIS IS GOING OVER REAL WELL IN EUROPE THE OLD MEMORIES OF THE
GERMAN REICH AND THE DOGS WHO ENFORCED DISCIPLINE STILL RESONATE IN
THE MINDS OF THE TORTURED



on edit: Sorry for the repost---- BUT WHO THE FUCK ARE THESE DOG HANDLERS---AND WHY DOESNT THE WASH POST----- PRINT OR RELEASE THE NEXT PHOTO, WHICH APPARENTLY SHOWS THESE DOGS BITING THIS POW IN THE PENIS AND SCROTUM ?????????

MYERS COVER UP WAS NEVER MORE APPARENT THAN HIS DESIRE TO IGNORE THIS PICTURE OF HIS "FREEDOM FIGHTERS"

sorry for the RANT

Morning saigon,

Did you catch the yahoo story on Monday about the "bomb-sniffing dogs" in Iraq getting bullett proof vests? Color me cynical but I felt that little gem was thrown out to mislead people from the real use of those dogs. As shown in your photos.

They are working overtime to dump ROSE Petals on a SHIT PILE

I love the bullet proof Vests these THUGS were wearing (above). I guess they were worried the naked POW would scratch then or something.



On edit: the combat boots these CLOWNS including BREMER wear-- are the AMERIKAN VERSION OF NAZI JACKBOOTS (see Schindler photo of SS Troops and JACKBOOTS)

That is what my cousin in EUROPE commented to me. The Europeans after the last 100 years of oppression notice little things like that.

It was no mistake. When you go out and sweep neighborhoods and load people into trucks and take them to jail (where they are further tortured and abused), that's not a mistake. It's a deliberate abuse of a conquered people. It's terrorism.

These numbers are staggering. 8,000 to 2,000? That implies that we have been illegally holding (and potentially abusing) thousands of innocent people.

The damage the U.S. has done in Iraq is staggering.

And the BEST (worst) Part is that these thousands of WAR CRIME VICTIMS are going to take these stories and recruit more people to (GET EVEN) with their tormenters.

If I was a 19 year old kid from Iowa (or his/her Mother) about to go to IRAQ-NAM , I'd be very worried

Be afraid too.

"This is just like the days of Saddam," said Khalid Saadi Awad, who wanted to enter the building to see whether his cousin was on trial. "The Americans have established a secret court."

Happy fucking democracy Iraq!

This whole mess just keeps getting worse by the day!

I'm literally choked with rage and shame. Why didn't BushCo just defecate on the flag?

iraq = 911 and thiis is what you get.
we went in there under the pretext of a lie -- there was no way in hell any of this was going to come out well.

Even to the SHEEP its obvious their Children didn't DIE FOR FREEDOM

in november -- and take action for a legitimate regime change.

honestly, we have seen all this on at Gitmo for 3 years now... why the hell did anyone think Iraq would be different?

 Colonel West’s tribute to FORCED INTERROGATION



IRAQ-NAM SEPTEMBER 2003

Army colonel fined for firing gun near Iraqi

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001814025_iraqdig13.html

A battalion commander in Iraq who fired his pistol near the head of an Iraqi detainee after his
soldiers had punched the prisoner was fined $5,000 yesterday as part of a nonjudicial disciplinary
proceeding that effectively ends his Army career.

While Maj. Gen. Raymond Odierno decided against court-martialing West yesterday, the
commander of the 4th Infantry Division in northern Iraq ruled at the end of an administrative
hearing in Tikrit that West would have to forfeit $2,500 a month in pay for two months, the
maximum fine allowed under so-called Article 15 administrative proceedings.

Lieutenant Colonel West's actions compromised his ability to command and maintain good order
and discipline within his unit," the Army official said. "Every soldier under his command now
believes it is OK to abuse detainees for information."


said Neal Puckett, a retired Marine lieutenant colonel and West's attorney. "Lieutenant Colonel
West would still be in command, would have been privately congratulated for a job well done, but
told to stay out of the interrogation business in the future."

SLAP ON WRIST TO WAR CRIMINAL WEST

ONE EXAMPLE OF THE WAR CRIMINALS BEING CODDLED BY HIGHER UPS

my grandfather was in an Italian prison off the coast of Yugoslavia (Mamula) during WWII and their torture methods were much better. I mean, OK, they'd beat you up and so on, but what really got to people was being fed heavily salted fish and bread as the only food for months on end and having very restricted access to water. All this forced oral sex business... bunch of fucking amateurs.

:grr:

PS Yeah, I am in a bit of a sick/caustic/viscious mood today

Its a beautiful day when one is still alive and kicking :-) :-)

:)

AT LEAST THE SCUMBAG WAS ALLOWED CLOTHES



Nice Job Steve Bell



Nice Job Gen Myers