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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 10:57 AM
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U.S. General: No Orders Given on Abusing Inmates
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Army general who investigated the mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners by the U.S. military testified on Tuesday he never found any orders to soldiers directing them to use abusive techniques on inmates.

At a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee, West Virginia Democratic Sen. Robert Byrd, questioning Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba, said the abuse at the Abu Ghraib prison was not just about guards and interrogators lacking in personal values, but "about policies and planning" from a higher level.

Byrd asked Taguba, "Who gave the order to soften up these prisoners, to 'give them the treatment?' Was this policy? Who approved it?"

"I did not find any evidence of a policy or a direct order given to these soldiers to conduct what they did," Taguba replied.

One more paragraph: http://news.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=5106306
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:05 AM
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1. Isn't it in the nature of a conspiracy to not have any records...
...or a trail of evidence that would identify that there was a conspiracy? Higher ups in the military would most certainly make sure that nobody therefore would "...find any evidence of a policy or a direct order given to these soldiers to conduct what they did ".

So far, so good from Rumsfeld's point of view. Rummy takes the responsibility, but the blame stays firmly with the soldiers and their immediate chain of command. :wtf:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:08 AM
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3. Boykin and Miller worked up the new "gitmozitation" for Abu Ghraib
and didn't let their civilian supervisor know...or Cambone didn't ask the questions he should have because he didn't want to be complicit.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:06 AM
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2. well, he didn't deny it
he just said he didn't find any evidence.

Just a hunch, I'm sure some will turn up soon.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:10 AM
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4. just looking at the evidence...most of the abuse took place after Miller
visited the camp. Clinton is going over this right now in the hearing.
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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:13 AM
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5. Link to transcript of opening
Edited on Tue May-11-04 11:13 AM by ze_dscherman
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:26 AM
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6. They are Liars in Uniform
Edited on Tue May-11-04 11:35 AM by saigon68
Just 1 or 2 bad apples



there are 9 in this picture alone

According to Graner (in the BLACK rubber rectal exam gloves) ---THE BIG FAT BASTARD GRABBING THE NAKED POWS
IS A CIVILIAN CIA EMPLOYEE

If you look closely you can see THE BIG FAT BASTARD does not have his desert combat boots bloused.
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