Graner Charged in the Abu Ghraib Scandal

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BAGHDAD, Iraq - The U.S. Army has filed criminal charges including adultery against Military Police Cpl. Charles A. Graner in connection with the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal, a senior U.S. officer announced Friday.



Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt said other charges against Graner also included conspiracy to maltreat detainee, dereliction of duty, cruelty and maltreatment of detainees. He will be arraigned May 20, but no trial date has been set, Kimmitt added.





http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=716&e=3&u=/ap/20040514/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_abuse

Gee, I'll bet alot of people are running for cover after hearing that news.

Technically, a single person cannot commit adultery. :shrug:

Adultery only occurs when someone is married. Otherwise, it's fornication, right? Graner was married at some point, as was England, but I was under the impression that they were both divorced from their former spouses.

from all accounts that is anything but a given.

WASHINGTON -- Sen. Ted Stevens said he was appalled by the latest photos of abuse from Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison, but he was even more disgusted by some of the pictures mixed in that showed the U.S. soldiers guarding the prison in sex acts with each other.

"I think fathers who saw those photographs would think twice about letting their daughters go into the military. And not because of what the men were doing (but) what they were doing to themselves, what the females were doing to themselves," Stevens said. "They're just terribly, terribly filthy folks."

http://www.adn.com/front/story/5070034p-4997566c.html

Okay, now I want to see all of the pictures. From what I've heard, there is enough "filth" in that prison to paint both the men and women involved as "terribly, filthy folks."

the truck he drives back home sits in his front lawn. "A front license plate has "Jesus" and a cross on it."

So he could not commit adultery, could he? If he had sex with a married woman, wouldn't she be committing adultery? Oh well, in any case, I think the army has different rules about this stuff.

He sounds like quite an asshole.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04129/313195.stm

edited to give the correct link.

in this article ? Disgusting.

... but the person who's married is the only one that can be called an adulterer. Once upon a time ...

An adulterer was a man who had illicit intercourse with a married or a betrothed woman, and such a woman was an adulteress. Intercourse between a married man and an unmarried woman was fornication.

Under that definition, only the marital status of the woman was at issue. If the WOMAN is married, it's adultery; if the woman is unmarried it's fornication at most. (This stems from the attitude that women were chattel.)

Not sure when she got divorced. I read it in an article last week.

Sex and alcoholism were commonplace among guards at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison even though they were forbidden, and soldiers set up a candle-lit room for sex shows, US troops who served there say.

"There was lots of affairs. There was all kinds of adultery and alcoholism and all kinds of crap going on," said Dave Bischel, a National Guardsman with the 870th Military Police unit who returned home last month after service at Abu Ghraib.

"There was a bed found in one of the abandoned buildings, there was a mattress on the ground, they had chairs all circled around it and candles all over the place," he said. "Chairs (were) around it obviously for an audience."

Behind closed doors yesterday, members of Congress saw more than 1,200 images of prisoner abuse that also included photos of consensual sex, members said.

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http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/14/1084289863681.html

...to going from "two weekends a year" to "a year plus" of service, and were all too willing to take it out on Iraqis at the behest of MI and "outsourced" military...

Is that DODspeak for rape?

Apparently there is a wife back home. "What did you do in the war, Daddy?"

how dispicable and inhumane. Rumbutt has no dignity, no humanity, no brain. No wonder our soldiers are committing such hanious acts of crime. But, I don't want Rumbutt gone. Let's keep him at the center of the storm and as a thorn in bush's butt.

Yet, Rumbutt gets worse. He denied the Berg family the request to receive their son's body at Dover Airforce Base. How many other bodies were coming home with Nicks?

DU family: Are we sending letters, cards, money...etc. to the Berg family? The best way is to send them to their nearest US Post Office in their town. Do Search and find the nearest P.O.

Since I'm a newbie, I can't post, but this is pretty interesting...

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2004/May-14-Fri-2004/news/23881142.html

:)

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/14/abuse.graner/

excerpt:

Graner contends that he was ordered by civilian and military intelligence to participate in the abusive activity and that one of the photographs that came to light this month is proof.

"The photo we presented is proof of what we've been saying because it shows military intelligence and civilian intelligence where this activity is taking place," Womack said.

The picture, Womack said, is taken from above, with the photographer looking down on a pile of at least three or four naked Iraqi prisoners who are shackled together in contorted positions.

Standing beside the pile is Graner, with his hands on his hips, and a man Womack said his client identified as a civilian contract employee dressed in military fatigues. Womack said partial views of four military intelligence agents can also be seen in the photograph.

...more...



Photo referred to in CNN article

<He went to his chain of command. He questioned some of the interrogation techniques, and he was told as a soldier he was to follow orders and that intelligence wants additional information," Bergrin told CNN's American Morning. (Senators question interrogation techniques)

Davis' superiors, Bergrin said, told the specialist it was important to "break the prisoners" in order to "save the lives of innocent soldiers on the outside and civilians and individuals like Nicholas Berg.">

They would torture someone and then go have sex with mutiple partners. What have we created America? Dignity has returned to America from the top down. The Adults are in charge. Ye haw

There have been records of soldiers in ancient battles having full erections while screaming and running towards their enemies.