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CharlesGroce (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:22 PM Original message |
Democrats agree to suppress photos of US torture in Iraq |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. Two things... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Americans Don't Know Our Troops Raped & Killed Innocent Iraqis |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. If you don't know already... |
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CharlesGroce (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. no wonder the... |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:41 AM Response to Reply #4 |
36. It isn't if their faces are blurred out. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 01:23 AM Response to Reply #36 |
46. Absolutely right. We would have not seen the first photos |
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Alerter_ (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 06:34 AM Response to Reply #46 |
68. Evidence of War Crimes MUST be public - Shame on Feinstein and Schumer |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #68 |
92. THEY ARE SCUM--ESPECIALLY SCHUMER |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 01:54 AM Response to Reply #4 |
51. Not that I think Bush is a Nazi |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 05:56 AM Response to Reply #51 |
66. In the Holocaust and Cambodian films... |
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YankmeCrankme (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 06:58 AM Response to Reply #66 |
73. Is it just me |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 08:50 AM Response to Reply #73 |
81. Not true. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 11:07 AM Response to Reply #4 |
89. Yeah, I guess those pictures are a hell of a lot worse than the actual |
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CharlesGroce (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Actually |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. As citizens we have every right |
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Barkley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Right On! shraby |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 01:32 AM Response to Reply #13 |
48. Those photos of Uday and Qusay were plastered across the tv screen |
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Alerter_ (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 06:54 AM Response to Reply #6 |
72. our tax money paid for the atrocities |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Every damning bit of the evidence must be revealed |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 02:13 AM Response to Reply #9 |
56. on the horizon |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 08:10 AM Response to Reply #56 |
80. Trust me you've seen worse! |
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Redleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 11:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. I agree. Most Americans don't know what the fuck happened. |
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2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 10:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
84. it is important to know before the bushCo does the same thing to us here |
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CharlesGroce (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. oh I haven't |
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demoman123 (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 02:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
58. Two things have to be done: |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 03:36 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Hear, hear! Well-said. |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 06:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
70. Watching the Berg beheading was much milder than many |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
8. I think we need a detailed list |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. I agree. |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 01:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
52. American respond better to picture then literature |
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crossroads (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 11:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. Those hoods 'saved' most of the Iraqi torture victims I saw |
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2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 10:07 AM Response to Reply #25 |
85. Rumsfeld is only a small part of this....there are many others to go |
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exDinosoar (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
10. Creative headline |
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CharlesGroce (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. I believe |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 11:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Welcome to DU! n/t |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 03:44 AM Response to Reply #10 |
62. You bet! |
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PaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 10:12 AM Response to Reply #62 |
86. The page is removed.. |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
11. Privacy arguments are just excuses for cover-up |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Deleted message |
daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 11:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. You forget, they committed crimes (I am talking about the guards) |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 08:05 AM Response to Reply #11 |
79. Trying to censor what is going to trickle out is just plain dumb! n/t |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
12. In light of the games being played with the Berg video....... |
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CharlesGroce (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 10:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. no! there is no reason to see these pornographic pictures... |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 11:08 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Democrats |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 01:24 AM Response to Reply #19 |
47. Well put. |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 11:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. So according to your "logic" |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 11:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I Don't Think We Saw the Worst of Those Images |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 11:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I've seen many, many images of torture from World War 2 |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 11:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Maybe I'm Just In Denial |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 11:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. We're certainly supposed to be better, I guess |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:48 AM Response to Reply #23 |
39. key words, there |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 01:05 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I think that's why some want so desperately to cover up the evidence |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:21 AM Response to Reply #20 |
33. In light of WWII |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:43 AM Original message |
That's a really good point--could history have been changed |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
50. Even the Jews didn't believe the atrocities were happening |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 01:18 AM Response to Reply #16 |
43. Not the issue |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 02:01 AM Response to Reply #16 |
53. This is the court of public opinion |
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Alerter_ (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 07:05 AM Response to Reply #16 |
75. some Democrats are desperate to cover up the photos - why? |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 07:03 AM Response to Reply #12 |
74. why the Berg video is bogus yet genuine American pro-war propaganda |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
21. Scylla & Charybdis |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:24 AM Response to Reply #21 |
34. That is a problem... |
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PaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 10:23 AM Response to Reply #34 |
87. I concur.. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 01:14 AM Response to Reply #21 |
41. You don't need to see the photos |
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Alerter_ (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 07:08 AM Response to Reply #41 |
76. Photos must be 100% public record |
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Democat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
28. Democrats almost always give in to what Republicans want |
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gulfcoastliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:20 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Exactly! |
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Unperson 309 (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
30. There Comes A Point... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 03:43 AM Response to Reply #30 |
61. Yes. Exactly. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 11:21 AM Response to Reply #30 |
90. Exactlky - thank you - Hear that DarkPhoenix? |
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LittleApple81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
31. I think that there must be copies floating around somewhere. |
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PaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 10:27 AM Response to Reply #31 |
88. I'm surprised with the number |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
35. “The public needs to understand ... |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:43 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I agree, without images it is just words |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
37. ## Support Democratic Underground! ## |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
42. They won't even call them "war crimes" |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 01:20 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. When is someone going to have the fortitude to bring up Geneva 3? |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
45. Wimps! And not hard to imagine why. |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 02:06 AM Response to Reply #45 |
55. The worst of it is Warner, Levin and McCain are listed by Kerry |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 03:45 AM Response to Reply #45 |
63. I think only a revolution is going to wake them up. |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
49. No Dianne.. I HAVEN'T seen enough! |
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Barkley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 01:34 PM Response to Reply #49 |
100. Write On Caliphoto! |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
54. stuff it, di fi |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 03:47 AM Response to Reply #54 |
64. She is no longer my senator. She's dead to me. |
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othermeans (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 09:41 AM Response to Reply #64 |
83. Thanks for that |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 02:22 AM Response to Original message |
57. They're protecting Bush again |
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Piperay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 03:16 AM Response to Original message |
59. Odd statement about Warner & Levin... |
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laylah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 05:48 AM Response to Original message |
65. I personally |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 06:22 AM Response to Original message |
67. "Words can be shrugged off" |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 06:37 AM Response to Original message |
69. Let see the photos |
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spinbaby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 06:48 AM Response to Original message |
71. In the talking points already |
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Alerter_ (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 07:28 AM Response to Reply #71 |
77. yes, and they will get away with it unless the truth is shown |
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jokerman93 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
78. There. I said it. And I meant it. |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 11:21 AM Response to Reply #78 |
91. Well said but don't let the word "hope" cloud your vision |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:13 PM Response to Reply #78 |
95. The US has never been a Democracy......only a Republic!!!! |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
82. I repeat a rumor going around law enforcement there are videos of SRA/ |
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Entente (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
93. We need to poll the Iraquis on this |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
94. Every reason why ...........All of Washington nedds to be fired!!! |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
96. the WSWS thinks the Geneva Conventions are preposterous? |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:43 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. No I disagree that this is part of the geneva convention |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 12:49 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. what about the Red Cross's position? |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-04 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
99. So wsws.org believes rape victims should be identified? |
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