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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:52 AM
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Giuliani's 9/11 testimony could hurt ties with Bush
http://www.suntimes.com/output/terror/cst-nws-probe16.html

NEW YORK -- More than two years after leaving office, former Mayor Rudolph Giuliani will testify before the Sept. 11 commission this week in an appearance that could put him in the awkward position of criticizing fellow Republicans in the Bush administration just as he is seeking a more prominent role in the party.

Giuliani will probably be asked by the commissioners whether the city was aware President Bush had reviewed an intelligence briefing a month before the attacks that said terrorists might be casing buildings in New York. snip

''The bottom line is he doesn't want to burn bridges, either in his consulting work or as a future politician,'' said Mike Paul, a political analyst and former Giuliani aide.

Giuliani declined to be interviewed but said last month he had not heard any intelligence that could have prompted the government to react differently before Sept. 11.

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:55 AM
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1. Oh, Il Duce will say nothing damaging to his fuhrer!
After all he made a bundle on the 911 donations and bilked the bankrupt city for 2 stadiums the last day in office. prosecutor Giuliani died a long time ago.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 08:51 AM
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3. Were Bush and Giuliani close before 9/11?
?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:57 AM
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2. I'm sure Rudy's memorizing the Rovian Talking Points...
... even as I type.

I'm not looking for anything breathtaking or ballsy from Rudy. The "Let's Politicize 9/11" RNC Convention is only a few months away, after all...
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 09:39 AM
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4. Pay special notice to the second sentence in the article.
Before either of the twin towers collapsed, Mayor
Rudolph Giuliani and his associates were told to leave
the headquarters they had set up within Building 7

"We were operating out of there when we were told that
the World Trade Center was gonna collapse," Rudolph
Giuliani told Peter Jennings of ABC News that morning, "and
it did collapse before we could get out of the building."

http://www.billhicks.com/message/messages/48029.html

Never before 911 had bldgs fallen due to fire.

On 911 3 skyscrapers came down.

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Point_n_click Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:01 PM
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5. Wait a second ...
"We were operating out of there when we were told that
the World Trade Center was gonna collapse," Rudolph
Giuliani told Peter Jennings of ABC News that morning, "and
it did collapse before we could get out of the building."

This could be nothing, but it begs the questions, who knew the building was going to come down, when, how did they know, and were they also notifying the rescue workers along with the politicians?


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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 08:31 PM
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7. Jerome M. Hauer NYC Office Emergency Management
Edited on Sun May-16-04 08:40 PM by jmcgowanjm
Does Jerry remember who told Giuliani to
evacuate WTC7:

-- 'Nowhere on the tape is there any indication that
firefighters had the slightest indication that the tower
had become unstable or that it could fall.' --
 
-- ' "Just two hose lines to attack two isolated pockets of fire.
"We should be able to knock it down with two lines," he tells
the firefighters of Ladder Company 15 who were following
him up the stairs of the doomed tower.' --

Fire Department Tape Reveals No Awareness of Imminent Doom
 
By KEVIN FLYNN and JIM DWYER

http://www.rense.com/general39/points.htm

10:00 11:15 a.m. PANEL FOUR
Dennis Smith Author, Report from Ground Zero
Jerome M. Hauer Former Director, New York City Office of Emergency Management (OEM)
Edward P. Plaugher Chief, Arlington County Fire Department

http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=183

July 12,1996-In anticipation of the tropical storm expected to hit
New York City sometime tomorrow morning, Mayor Rudolph
W. Giuliani and Jerome M. Hauer, Director of the Mayor's Office
of Emergency Management, urged New Yorkers to take
the necessary precautions to safeguard their families
and property.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/om/html/96/sp330-96.html

In 1998, he convinced New York Mayor Rudi Guilliani to
develop a vaccine against the West Nile virus - almost one
year before this virus broke out in New York.

With Hauer's many sources of insider information
(e.g. Kroll/President bodyguards) , it makes sense that he
also knew about the CIA briefing for George Bush on August
6, 2001, about warnings of an imminent terrorist "attack
with planes."

http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=837
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 02:43 PM
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6. I'm sure they'll let him testify NOT under oath
He's a friend, after all. :eyes:
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 08:37 PM
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8.  the following questions for the Giuliani Administration under oath
Edited on Sun May-16-04 08:38 PM by jmcgowanjm
May 11, 2004
The Family Steering Committee is pleased that former
Mayor Rudy Giuliani and members of his Administration will
be giving sworn testimony before an audience of Families
of 9/11 Victims and the American public.

...13. On 9/11, no aircraft hit WTC 7. Why did the building fall
at 5:20 PM that evening? Larry Silverstein is heard on a PBS
tape saying "I remember getting a call from the, E.R.,
fire department commander, telling me that they were not
sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I
said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the
smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision
to pull and we watched the building collapse," said
Larry Silverstein, WTC Leaseholder. - PBS (9/10/02) Does
"pull" mean demolished? What do you know about this?

http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=183
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