CIA Wrong on Iraq 'Mobile Labs,' Powell Says

but only one of numerous impeachable offenses committed by all these people.

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"We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories…for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them." {President Bush, Interview in Poland, 5/29/03}

http://www.whitehouse.gov/g8/interview5.html

<snip>Q But, still, those countries who didn't support the Iraqi Freedom operation use the same argument, weapons of mass destruction haven't been found. So what argument will you use now to justify this war?

THE PRESIDENT: We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories. You remember when Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said, Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons. They're illegal. They're against the United Nations resolutions, and we've so far discovered two. And we'll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them.

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Not Me did it.....How I despise these cowards in power.

- That the kids blame everything on. Exactly. I'm afraid the Bush cabal leaders have blamed everything on the wrong "spooks." It will come back to haunt them.

The Iraq prisoner abuse scandal shifted on Sunday to the question of whether the Bush administration set up a legal foundation that opened the door for the mistreatment.
Within months of the Sept. 11 attacks, White House counsel Alberto Gonzales reportedly wrote President Bush a memo about the terrorism fight and prisoners' rights under the Geneva Conventions.

"In my judgment, this new paradigm renders obsolete Geneva's strict limitations on questioning of enemy prisoners and renders quaint some of its provisions," Newsweek magazine reported. Secretary of State Colin Powell "hit the roof" when he read the memo, according to the account.
Powell, interviewed from Jordan by NBC, left open the possibility of problems up the line from the prison guards who engaged in abuse. "I don't see yet any indication that there was a command-climate problem higher up," the secretary said.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., expressed concern over the shift in responsibility for the scandal at the prison, where military intelligence personnel were given authority over the military police.

"We need to take this as far up as it goes," said McCain.

Former CIA counterterrorism official Vincent Cannistraro said it was a major miscalculation to apply interrogation methods that were specifically designed to extract information from al-Qaida prisoners to Abu Ghraib and other holding centers inside Iraq.

"It was probably the most counterproductive move that the policy-makers could have made and it showed the complete misunderstanding of the Iraq culture," said Cannistraro.

The reasons for importing the techniques, Cannistraro said, were the frustrations at the policy level in Washington that not enough information was being obtained about weapons of mass destruction and the frustration over the lack of information about the resistance in Iraq.

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAMS53KBUD.html

Keep pouring gas on the CIA flames.....You are gonna get burned.

when myself, a mere common man, was NOT skunked, because I was reading and keeping up with the information.

No way Powell.

You were willing to be the fall guy as usual, possibly believing that you can and would spin yourself out of it, and emerge pure and sober and the only one in the evil Bush administration that had a brain. Yup, that is your costume you like so much to wear.

No way, Powell.

You made a fool of yourself in front of the UN, and did so knowingly without taking any time to investigate at all. That was your responsibility and you screwed it up and shirked your responsibiulity and have emerged as the lawn ornament.

You , after all, were raking in some good bucks doing so and also assured that you would rake in bigger bucks after you retired. So you, as usual were playing that game--of self survival.

You now want to extricate yourself from it all and now adopt your, "sober and grounded" mythology to prove to us all that you never approved of a damn thing this administration was doing\\
and that is actually hysterically funny.

But you stood for it, and let it happen for almost four years--and I ask, "How come?"

Unlike Richard Clarke, or Paul O'Neil you remained the loyal ass kisser and lawn ornament.

Go away Powell, you are making more of a fool of yourself with this circus like " leaks"

was thinking none of this would be uncovered.

I found the CIA report on the two trailers found in Iraq that were suppose to be mobile weapons lab to be a joke. For one thing, you had to take the thing apart to get at the growth chamber to get any cultivated germs.

I am glad that Powell has admitted that this claim was wrong.

The intelligence was sent back if it didn't support the ideology of ChimpCo Inc.

It's a bit like journalism Soviet-style. The Busholinis are never too low to use the most corrupt totalitarian techniques.

...in his presentation to the UN. The NeoCon, Pentagon-based OSP was responsible for the information Powell used in his report.

In short, Powell is lying to protect his NeoCon pals in the Pentagon who produced this report based on Iraqi sources that later turned out to be unreliable.

In other words, a couple of trailer parks with a few test tubes in them.

It wasn't the CIA. This was the information that Curveball, Chalabi's best buddy, gave to Cheney and Rummy. Not CIA.

Did the neocons STOP the "talking points" memos to him?

He seems to be moving further and further away from the PNACers.

Sure, Colin, you are naive, sly and stupid all at the same time. Time to jump ship, buddy, I'm sure you might have a cushy job waiting in the wings. There is always room for a yes man in some corporate office.

Top inspectors criticize CIA data on Iraqi sites, claim some documents are fake
Posted on Saturday, March 08 @ 08:51:10 EST

...But Blix subsequently challenged Powell's interpretation of at least one of the satellite images. And on Friday, Blix said inspectors cannot yet verify claims by "intelligence authorities" that Iraq is shifting illegal weapons by truck to avoid detection, that it is producing and storing weapons in underground bunkers, and that it has built mobile laboratories to produce germ warfare agents.

Inspectors have found "food testing mobile laboratories and mobile workshops ... as well as large containers with seed processing equipment," Blix said. "No evidence of proscribed activities has so far been found."

In response, Powell blamed Baghdad. "If Iraq genuinely wanted to disarm, we would not have to be worrying about setting up means of looking for mobile biological units -- they would be presented to us," he told the council.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-intel8mar08,1,1716906.story

Powell's reasoning: We know he's got them because we can't find them.

Talk about Alice in Wonderland.

Their director is letting the CIA take the fall for all Bush's "darn good intelligence".

I don't understand why Tenet does this. What kind of career move is that?

More distressingly, I don't understand why the career CIA organization permits the director to sell them out like that.

They haven't done the payback on the White House for exposing Valerie Plame as an agent. They haven't done a payback on the White House for this scapegoating.

What's going on at the CIA? Where's the guys in the white hats who are supposed to make things right?

Here's one example of many in the lead up to the war:

The CIA?s former head of counterintelligence told the London Guardian that: ?Basically, cooked information is working its way into high-level pronouncements and there?s a lot of unhappiness about it in intelligence, especially among analysts at the CIA.? CIA Director Tenet?s assessment stands in direct contrast to President Bush?s assertion in his October 7 speech that ?Iraq could decide on any given day to provide a biological or chemical weapon to a terrorist group or individual terrorists.?

http://www.freepress.org/journal.php?strFunc=display&strID=19&strJournal=8

Those were Powell's words when presented with his UN speech, I believe. What kind of crap is this, now. Now he says that he's "concerned"???
:wtf:

Seems to me he "threw the binder across the room" to emphasize the point. Virtually everything he said at the U.N. with that dick Negroponte and that cipher Tenent behind him was false and known as such. There was a terrorist base in what was Kurd controlled area, there was activity with Hazmat trucks around a facility that were actually fire trucks and all sorts of other lies delivered with the calm rectitude of studied trustworthiness.

I hope Powell burns. He's played a treacherous game, and with any luck, he'll get fucked by everyone involved: the administration for trying to keep above the fray, the intelligence community for trying to fob off the blame on them and the rest of the human race for his deep ugliness of the soul. Even though he's far from the worst--in fact, hardly even on the list--he should fry. He's been on a self-serving path for years now, and his peculiar loyalty to gangsters is not a virtue and should be shown as such. Fuck him. Burn him and hammer him from every angle. He's as trapped now as the rest of them are and he deserves true humiliation.

Well, this should be big news..

at least Joe Wilson will have something to say...

OOopsy, forgot, Asscroft issued a GAG order on the Flame affair.

We aren't allowed to discuss it. right?

By all means, you can disagree with me but at times I wonder if Powell is trying to somehow bring this administration down from the inside. Admissions of mistakes and misjudgements, well reported animosity toward other cabinet members, wrong about this, wrong about that.
It just seems he lets something slip occasionally. The only thing I believe is that these 'slips' aren't slips at all.

I believe he is their worst nightmare.

Blair is thinking of resigning...

Some of the Pms are considering indicting Blair for War Crimes..

Powell is creating issues keeping the mainstream focused and hot...

Powell is on our side..

Everything is changed. The rug has been pulled out from under the Bush Cartel and they are scrambling for their lives.

BECAUSE....Dick Cheney is a pathological liar...(scroll down)...


...and a "Big Time" Asshole.

Say I wanted to take over the Duchy of Grand Fenwick, but I lack money and armies. So I go to the CIA and put a smooth con on them about the gathering threat, horror-story, evil blahblah. Then, Grand Duchess Gloriana XII stupidly plays right into my hand, and the US invades and Grand Fenwick is now mine.

When the CIA discovers I lied to them, wouldn't I expect a knock at my door, or at least a subpoena on my desk? Shouldn't I at least have to try my skating skills with a judge, aren't there any statutes, regulations, whatever?

Guess not. Thanks for the Duchy, I've wanted one forever.