Military intelligence, CIA officers under scrutiny (Iraq torture scandal)

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Mon May-17-04 06:44 AM
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Military intelligence, CIA officers under scrutiny (Iraq torture scandal)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usatoday/20040517/ts_usatoday/militaryintelligenceciaofficersunderscrutiny&cid=676&ncid=1473

As the first court-martial begins this week in the Iraq (news - web sites) prison abuse scandal, attention is focused not only on the U.S. military guards accused of humiliating Iraqi inmates at Abu Ghraib prison but on a group not yet charged: the military intelligence and CIA (news - web sites) officers the guards say ordered them to do it.

CIA and Pentagon (news - web sites) investigators are conducting separate probes of allegations that military intelligence officers, CIA field officers and possibly private contractors told the military police guarding the prisoners to mete out rough treatment to selected inmates in the early morning hours prior to interrogation.

The Pentagon is already taking criminal or administrative action against 14 military personnel. One guard's court-martial begins Wednesday in Baghdad, and at least three more guards are awaiting trial dates. The wider investigations are looking into how far up the chain of command the knowledge of prisoner abuse went.

The CIA says its own initial probe of agency field officers who worked at Abu Ghraib last fall has turned up no evidence that any of these interrogators witnessed or ordered abusive treatment. A separate inquiry headed by CIA Inspector General John Helgerson is focusing on the death of one Iraqi under CIA questioning at Abu Ghraib last November.

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saigon68

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Mon May-17-04 06:55 AM
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1. Nothing to see

Move along

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colonel odis

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Mon May-17-04 07:11 AM
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2. so if a private contractor -- aka mercenary -- gives an m.p. an order

Edited on Mon May-17-04 07:11 AM by colonel odis

the mp is obligated to carry it out?

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FreakinDJ

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Mon May-17-04 07:41 AM
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3. No but the private contractor has immunity from the law

Bush signed an executive order granting the contractors legal immunity

Like this wasn't planned long in advance

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schultzee

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Mon May-17-04 09:14 AM
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4. Someone did not educate these troops about being allowed to

refuse certain orders, and the Uniform Military Code of Conduct,and the Geneva Convention.

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TahitiNut

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Mon May-17-04 09:25 AM
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5. When the unit command tells the enlisted people to "cooperate"

... then enlisted personnel are following a more general order when they comply with instructions given by the civilians who're running the show.

It's not at all unusual for enlisted people to take direction from civilians. In virtually every stateside military post (and many overseas), there are administrative operations managed by civilians wherein enlisted people do the "non-exempt" work.

Remember, the CinC is (purportedly) a civilian.

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nodictators

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Mon May-17-04 09:28 AM
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6. The CIA says:...

...its own initial probe of agency field officers who worked at Abu Ghraib last fall has turned up no evidence that any ...(HA-HA)

CIA media techniques:

Admit Nothing
Deny Everything
Make Counter-charges

Also, Sy Hersh revealed the the military intelligence and CIA operatives could use aliases. So, "Bill Cutter" (name of an evil character in Gangs of New York) gets a reprimand in his newly-created folder. See, we punished "Bill."

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TacticalPeek

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Mon May-17-04 12:25 PM
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7. One death under questioning, no abusive treatment.

They need a script doctor.

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