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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 07:29 AM
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Cardinal prophesied Polish pope's election
Snip from The Times

From Richard Owen in Rome


THE Pope marks his 84th birthday today with the publication of a new volume of autobiography in which he says he has a guardian angel who watches over him.

He also reveals that his election as pontiff in 1978 was “prophesied” 20 years earlier, when he was made auxiliary Bishop of Cracow at the age of 38.

The book, Rise Up, Let Us Go, deals with the Pope’s “war of nerves” with the Communist authorities in Cracow, first as bishop and then as archbishop and cardinal before his election as Pope.

He recalls that he was on a canoeing expedition in the Masurian Lakes in Poland in 1958 when he was summoned by Cardinal Stefan Wyszynski, then the primate of the Roman Catholic Church in Poland, to be told that he was to be a bishop. The Pope protested that he was too young. The following day he presented himself to Monsignor Eugeniusz Baziak, the Archbishop of Cracow, who took him by the arm — “I remember it as if it were yesterday” — and introduced him to a group of local priests with the startling words “Habemus papam”, the Latin formula used during the announcement on St Peter’s Square when a pope is elected. The Pope remarks that “in the light of later events” the words “could be said to be prophetic”.
More:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,171-1114295,00.html

This prophesy sounds like something from a Polish 19th century poem by Juliush Slowacki(??) or maybe Mickiewicz about a fantasy/dream that predicted a Polish Pope: "Polski Papierzu"....

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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 08:09 AM
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1. Right
I'm sure it was all prophesy with no church politics involved.

:eyes:

People believe the most interesting things.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 08:21 AM
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2. BBC has a great cached story on choosing the new pope.
By BBC News Online's Peter Gould

The creation of new cardinals takes place about once every three years at a meeting with the pope known as a consistory, during which they receive the red hats that are the symbol of their rank.

Announcing the list last month, the Pope also revealed the names of two cardinals appointed in secret, three years ago.

College of Cardinals
Members: 184
Voters: 135
Average age of voters: 71
Voters appointed by John Paul II: 93%
This is a significant event because many of these new cardinals will one day be called on to take part in the conclave to elect the next pope, provided they are still under 80.

Their votes will not only change the mathematics of the election - the new pope could well emerge from their ranks.

much, much more (including the appointment of secret cardinals in 2001 and a roster of potential papal candidates)...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1178910.stm
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