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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 06:58 AM
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STOCK MARKET WATCH, Wednesday 19 May
Wednesday May 19, 2004

COUNTING THE DAYS
DAYS REMAINING IN THE * REGIME 250
DAYS SINCE DEMOCRACY DIED (12/12/00) 3 YEARS, 159 DAYS
WHERE'S OSAMA BIN-LADEN? 2 YEARS, 212 DAYS
WHERE ARE SADDAM'S WMD? - DAY 426
DAYS SINCE ENRON COLLAPSE = 909
Number of Enron Execs in handcuffs = 18
Recent Acquisitions: Jeff Skilling
ENRON EXECS CONVICTED = 2
Other Arrests of Execs = 54

U.S. FUTURES & MARKETS INDICATORS
NASDAQ FUTURES-----------------------------S&P FUTURES




AT THE CLOSING BELL ON May 18, 2004

Dow... 9,968.51 +61.60 (+0.62%)
Nasdaq... 1,897.82 +21.18 (+1.13%)
S&P 500... 1,091.49 +7.39 (+0.68%)
10-Yr Bond... 4.74% +0.04 (+0.79%)
Gold future... 375.90 -3.70 (-0.97%)

DOW..........................NASDAQ.......................S&P


||


GOLD, EURO, YEN and Dollars


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PIEHOLE ALERT

Heads Up!
Preliminary info on appearances by Bush & Co. throughout the country. Details & links are added as they become available so check back. And if you know more, are organizing something, or would like to, contact actionpost@legitgov.org

For information on protests and other actions Citizens For Legitimate Government

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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 07:17 AM
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1. Woo-hoo! Look at those futures today! Looking at the 1 year
charts, they all seemed to just kiss the 200 day moving average yesterday. Perhaps todays goal is the 50 day? Nah, I'm sure it's pure coincidence.

Great toon again today Ozy!

I won't be around most of the day today, might be able to check in after the lunch hour. Hope you all have a great day. :hi:
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 07:19 AM
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2. WrapUp by Ike Iossif
FRAUD AND DECEPTION IS THE ORDER OF THE DAY!

I have always believed that the stock market is the heart of the capitalist system. The ability to raise capital by young companies thru the efficiency of the financial markets has enabled our country to achieve wealth unmatched by any other country in the post-Industrial Age. Unfortunately over the past decade, and especially over the past five years, the financial markets have been transformed into a huge casino—and this is an understatement. In a recent email to me, Mr. Martin Goldberg, put it in much more blatant terms:

"...with the stock market appearing like brothel with all the late trading, insider trading, program trading, accounting shenanigans, earnings management, insider selling, and media spin, etc., who in their right mind can hold Exxon Mobil (in a college savings account yet) when it goes to $36?"

"Brothel?" That's a pretty strong word. Yet, it totally encapsulates the disgust of many professionals when it comes to the un-ending "late trading, insider trading, program trading, accounting shenanigans, earnings management, insider selling, and media spin" that seem to be the order of the day. A good example—in my humble view—is what took place on Friday, May 7, 2004. As many may recall, on that day the bond market plunged and so did many stocks at the NYSE. In fact, that day the NYSE experienced one of the worst breadth ratios ever, 12:1! On that day 256 issues advanced, while 3152 declined and the NYSE fell 119 points. Interestingly, NASDAQ and most notably the NDX held rather well. The NDX fell just 12.82 points, while the shameless talking heads at CNBC marveled throughout the entire day at the "strength" and "resilience" exhibited by tech, which they immediately interpreted to be a "good thing" for the market!

http://www.financialsense.com/Market/wrapup.htm
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 07:23 AM
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3. Fahrenheit 451
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_04/jmackenzie051804.html

Myron S. Scholes of Long Term Capital Management, won one-half the 1997 Nobel Peace Prize in Economic Sciences "for a new method to determine the value of derivatives."

In September of 1998 LTCM ran into a glitch as their Laureate's method began to run amok. At the beginning of 1998, LTCM held capital of $4.8 billion, a portfolio of in excess of $200 billion (credit facilities) and derivatives with a notional value (how much capital a given derivative effectively controls) of $1.25 trillion.

The investors who dared to ask questions were told to "take their money somewhere else".

On September 23, 1998 William J. McDonough, president of the New York Federal Reserve Bank enlisted LTCM's counter parties to bail out the fund which was for all intents and purposes bankrupt. The counter parties provided $3.6 billion in return for a 90% share in the fund and the promise a supervisory board would be established.

Simply put, a Nobel Laureate's "derivative model" wrought disaster, only to be bailed out by the very counter parties it had "insured" against risk.

more...
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 07:45 AM
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4. Good morning Marketeers!
I'm going to be scarce today. Lots of stuff to do away from home. I'll check back in after 1pm.

Have a great day at the Casino!



Ozy :hi:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 07:48 AM
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5. daily dollar watch
http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYBOT_DXY0

Last trade 90.78 Change -0.47 (-0.52%)

http://www.fxstreet.com/nou/noticies/afx/noticia.asp?pv_noticia=200405190626MKTNEWS_MAINWIRE_659B_7547

Yen Higher Against Dollar, Euro; Euro-dlr In Range

LONDON, May 19 (MktNews) - The yen rose further against the dollar
and euro in European morning trade Wednesday as hedge funds showed
increased interest in investing in Japan and exporters hedged exposure
in dollar-yen. Meanwhile, euro-dollar settled into a broad range around
$1.20.

<snip>

ON THE US AGENDA:

US MBA Mortgage Application Index for the May 14 week at 1100GMT.

US speakers: At 1230GMT with Fed Governor Susan Schmidt Bies
speaking about corporate governance at the Institute of Internal
Auditors conference.

At 1745GMT, Fed Governor Edward Gramlich speaks about US government sponsored enterprises in Washington. At 1830GMT, Treasury Secretary John Snow is due to testify to the Senate Committee on Aging about health savings accounts. He also speaks at a Competitive Enterprise Institute dinner at 2315GMT.

...more...

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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:21 AM
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6. What the heck you doing over here?
kick
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:31 AM
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7. Party time!
I believe the CNN folk said this morning that "people are just in a buying mood" :eyes:
Dow 10,081.22 +112.71 (+1.13%)
Nasdaq 1,933.18 +35.36 (+1.86%)
S&P 500 1,104.78 +13.29 (+1.22%)
10-Yr Bond 4.786% +0.050
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:36 AM
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8. Wow! What in-depth analysis!
Sometimes I wish I had cable, it seems I miss out on a lot!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:43 AM
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10. side of blather for you?
10:30AM: The major averages book more gains, lifting 1.1-1.9%... In its advance, the Dow has lifted above the psychologically-significant 10,000 mark, as well as its 200- day simple moving average at 10,033, supporting the market's advance, which has also been made possible by the absence of bothersome geopolitical headlines this morning... The positive bias is largely an extension of yesterday's advance and a rebound from losses realized over the past month... The bond market, in the meantime, is extending its losses with the 10-year note down 12/32, bringing its yield up to 4.78%...NYSE Adv/Dec 2421/493, Nasdaq Adv/Dec 2148/510

10:00AM: The market continues to build on yesterday's advance and extends its gains off this morning's opening levels... The Nasdaq is spearheading the broad-based advance with gains of 1.4% at this juncture... The bulk of the sectors are trading in positive territory, with leaders to the upside including the hardware, internet, networking, software, semiconductor, telecom, banking, REIT, gold, industrials, transportation, broker/dealer, iron & steel, and coal groups... There's little in terms of strong leadership to the upside, but the oil services sector is among the few groups trading in the red...

The group's decline coincides with a continuation of a retreat in the price of crude oil from its all-time high of $41.85 set two sessions ago and ahead of today's US Dept of Energy weekly inventory report...NYSE Adv/Dec 2098/518, Nasdaq Adv/Dec 1883/557
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 03:30 PM
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27. HA! "Absence of bothersome geopolitical headlines" Sheesh, hello
people - there's a war going on. :eyes:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:42 AM
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9. U.S. weekly mortgage requests fall to January low
http://www.reuters.com/financeNewsArticle.jhtml?type=bondsNews&storyID=5191396

NEW YORK, May 19 (Reuters) - New U.S. mortgage applications fell sharply last week, despite mortgage rates falling for the first time since early March, an industry trade group said on Wednesday.

The Mortgage Bankers Association said its seasonally adjusted market index, a measure of weekly mortgage activity, declined for the week ending May 14 by 11.9 percent to 654.1 from the previous week's 742.2. This was the lowest level since 599.9 touched in the first week of January

Average 30-year mortgage rates, excluding fees, fell by 11 basis points to 6.21 percent. Last week's average 30-year rates were up 104 basis points from the comparable week a year ago.

Mortgage rates have trended higher since mid-March with rising Treasury yields as data suggested faster U.S. economic growth and growing inflationary pressure. Higher mortgage rates have curtailed refinancing activities, but home sales and construction have yet to show signs of dropping off.

After a protracted rise, Treasury yields fell late last week on a wave of bargain-hunting.

The Washington trade group's purchase index, a gauge of new loan requests for home purchases fell by 8.1 percent to 454.2 after hitting its second highest ever level at 494.3 the previous week. Its all-time high was 501.6 reported for the Jan. 16 week.

...more...
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 10:22 AM
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11. Question regarding Cingular buy out of AT &T wireless
Does this mean that AT&T shareholders will now own Cingular stock, if not, what happens to those with AT&T stock?

Thanks for the input. I love this thread, I check it several times a day. Thanks for all the good work!



AT&T Wireless shareholders approve Cingular buyout

Wednesday, May 19, 2004


05-19) 07:28 PDT ATLANTA (AP) --

Shareholders of AT&T Wireless Services Inc. have approved Cingular Wireless LLC's $41 billion offer to buy the Redmond, Wash.-based company.

The announcement came at AT&T Wireless' annual shareholder meeting Wednesday in Wilmington, Del.

The all-cash deal reached in February calls for Cingular to pay AT&T Wireless $15 a share. The companies hope to complete the deal by the end of the year. It also is subject to regulatory approval.

The deal would make Cingular the nation's largest cell phone provider with 46 million customers

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/05/19/financial1028EDT0060.DTL&type=business
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 12:51 PM
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12. Report of major FUP in Iraq - will it have any impact on the
market - could never figure out which type of news items make things jittery. US warplanes killing 20+ at a wedding party... during a period when things are deteriorating in Iraq... will it have no effect, minimal effect?
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:30 PM
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13. We report, you decide
Dow 10,020.53 +52.02 (+0.52%)
Nasdaq 1,921.72 +23.90 (+1.26%)
S&P 500 1,097.94 +6.45 (+0.59%)
10-Yr Bond 4.802% +0.066
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:04 PM
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14. Crude back atop $41 as gas price rises
http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7BA613E4E2-E49C-4737-8FAC-8589CE46015C%7D&siteid=google&dist=google

SAN FRANCISCO (CBS.MW) -- Crude-oil prices climbed back above $41 and gasoline futures rose as much as 3 percent Wednesday, with modest changes in U.S. crude supplies and small increases in motor fuel stocks deemed inadequate to meet demand.

The data "will keep prices above the $40 level until we see signs that OPEC is actually pumping oil and not words," said John Person, editor of The Bottom Line newsletter.

With the summer driving season looming, crude for June delivery rose 63 cents to trade at $41.17 per barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange. The contract fell more than 2 percent Tuesday after climbing to uncharted territory in the prior two sessions. See the latest futures prices.

June unleaded gasoline climbed 3.11 cents to trade at $1.418 a gallon on Nymex, after briefly touching a one-week low of $1.362. June heating oil also rose, climbing 2.8 cents to $1.0415 per gallon.

The inventory reports "will be a distant memory when another incident happens in Iraq or when Joe and Jane driver are filling up their SUV this week," said Kevin Kerr, editor of Kwest Market Edge. See the newsletter.

"The proof is in the pudding -- how will it translate at the pump," he said.

A price drop in the near term could "mute any production increase talk from OPEC, and any more talk of release from the SPR," Kerr said. But in the end, that "could result in even higher prices down the road."

The SPR, or Strategic Petroleum Reserve, is maintained by the U.S. government for use at times of national emergency, but it's been tapped to help lower commercial gasoline prices twice in the past.

...more...


and

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=a142AMVN6atA&refer=us

AMR's Jet Fuel Costs May Rise 25 Percent From 2003, Arpey Says

May 19 (Bloomberg) -- AMR Corp.'s American Airlines, the world's largest carrier, will boost spending for jet fuel as much as 25 percent because of rising oil prices, Chief Executive Officer Gerard Arpey said.

``Fuel prices have had an enormous impact on our recovery,'' Arpey said at a press conference after AMR's annual meeting in Fort Worth, Texas. ``The impact has been extraordinary. We thought we were coming off a year in which we already had high oil prices because of the war.''

American and U.S. airlines such as Continental Airlines Inc. have failed in three attempts this year to boost fares when discount carriers declined to match. Continental, the fifth- biggest U.S. carrier, yesterday raised fares as much as $20 per round-trip ticket, and Arpey said American probably would match.

Fuel costs may increase $600 million to $700 million from last year, Arpey said at the news conference. New York oil prices have gained 9 percent this month, partly on concern that rising gasoline consumption will outstrip efforts by refiners and importers to boost supplies for the summer driving season.

Gasoline demand traditionally peaks between the Memorial Day holiday, this year on May 31, and Labor Day in early September. Crude oil for June delivery was up 21 cents, or 0.5 percent, to $40.75 as of 11:50 a.m. on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

A $1 increase in the per-barrel price of oil boosts American's fuel costs by $80 million a year, Arpey said. American's fuel expenses last year increased 8.2 percent to $2.77 billion from $2.56 billion in 2002, the company said Jan. 21.

...more...
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:06 PM
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15. Market Numbers at 3:04 EST and blather
Dow 9,999.53 +31.02 (+0.31%)
Nasdaq 1,912.48 +14.66 (+0.77%)
S&P 500 1,094.76 +3.27 (+0.30%)
10-Yr Bond 4.798% +0.062


3:00PM: Near their worst levels of the session, the major averages are trading within only a short reach of their morning lows... The sharp decline over the past hour has been attributed to selling of S&P futures by a Tier 1 firm... Given Friday's monthly options expiration and today's moderate-at-best volume totals, the exhibited volatility is not entirely surprising... With an hour of trade remaining, it remains to be seen if the dip will be used as a buying opportunity, or if buyers will remain on the sidelines despite the market's earlier gains...

Note that in its decline the Dow has slipped below the psychologically- significant 10K level...NYSE Adv/Dec 2221/1068, Nasdaq Adv/Dec 1868/ 1199
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:29 PM
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16. back under 10,000 at 3:30
Dow 9,990.16 +21.65
Nasdaq 1,909.16 +11.34
S&P 1,093.81 +2.32
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:32 PM
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17. That's psychologically significant, you know.
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:38 PM
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18. yep
it's the benchmark that has been set.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 03:13 PM
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25. wrong direction.
It's "breaking a psychological barrier" when it's going up, and leads all the nightly news broadcasts, but going down it's somehow not so significant. Not sure why...



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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:41 PM
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19. Market Numbers at 3:38 EST and blather
Dow 9,967.66 -0.85 (-0.01%)
Nasdaq 1,905.65 +7.83 (+0.41%)
S&P 500 1,091.98 +0.49 (+0.04%)
10-Yr Bond 4.794% +0.058


3:30PM: With half an hour of trade remaining, the market is trading at its session lows... Although still in positive territory, the major averages have pared the bulk of their earlier losses, holding on to only a fractional portion of the gains exhibited in the early going... While the early advance was encouraging, it (again) occurred on rather uninspiring volume, suggesting a lack of conviction on the part of participants to the move higher, despite it being supported by upbeat earnings from Hewlett-Packard (HPQ 20.99 +1.16) and Applied Materials (AMAT 18.92 +0.07)...

Tomorrow, the Initial Claims and Philly Fed Index reports will be released, shedding light on the progress in the unemployment and manufacturing sectors...NYSE Adv/Dec 2068/1238, Nasdaq Adv/Dec 1733/1356
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 03:12 PM
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24. The PPT at work!
The Plunge Production Team.

Why... isn't it true that any time the market moves one way and then reverses for no apearent reason it's got to be manipulation?
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 03:20 PM
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26. Frodo, how nice to see you
in such a lovely :tinfoilhat: :D

I don't think that the change was due to the PPT - perhaps the bad publicity that the "images" have been giving the public and the perception of hypocrisy perhaps?
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 03:57 PM
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30. HA! Check out the closing blather - Ya may be on to something. Heh-heh!
Perhaps it's the SPT (surge protection team). Can't have money moving to the markets, we need them to buy bonds!

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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:41 PM
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20. 3:40, minor bloodshed
Dow 9,967.10 -1.42
Nasdaq 1,905.95 +8.23
S&P 1,091.92 +0.47
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:52 PM
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21. 3:52. deeper in to the red
Dow 9,942.19 -26.32
Nasdaq 1,899.28 +1.46
S&P 1,089.14 -2.35
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phoebe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:57 PM
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22. Greenspan has just been given 4/5 more years as head of Fed.
Edited on Wed May-19-04 03:03 PM by phoebe
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/business/20040518-1133-bush-greenspan.html

By Terence Hunt
ASSOCIATED PRESS
11:33 a.m. May 18, 2004

snip

WASHINGTON – President Bush renominated Alan Greenspan as chairman of the Federal Reserve on Tuesday, praising his leadership and sending a strong signal of stability to financial markets.

The nomination was announced as Greenspan met at the White House with the president.

"Sound fiscal and monetary policies have helped unleash the potential of American workers and entrepreneurs, and America's economy is now growing at the fastest rate in two decades," Bush said in a statement.

"Alan Greenspan has done a superb job as chairman of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, and I have great continuing confidence in his economic stewardship," the president said.


Can't say I'm surprised by this. After all, it would be suicidal, at this moment in time, to do anything else.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 03:11 PM
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23. Closing Numbers
Dow 9,937.71 -30.80 (-0.31%)
Nasdaq 1,898.17 +0.35 (+0.02%)
S&P 500 1,088.68 -2.81 (-0.26%)
10-Yr Bond 4.794% +0.058


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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 03:37 PM
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28. Looks like the DOW and Nasdaq are just a schmidgin below the
200 day MA, while the S&P is right on it. (from the 1 year charts anyway). I'd have to look 'em up to be certain and I'm just not that curious today.

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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 03:51 PM
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29. Side o' blather to go with those (gee, and the futures looked so nice this
morning too)

Close Dow -30.80 at 9,937.71, S&P -2.81 at 1,088.68, Nasdaq +0.35 at 1,898.17:
What started out as a terrific session for market enthusiasts, with the Nasdaq advancing as much as 2.0%, ended up with the bitter disappointment of a relatively flat to slightly lower close for the major averages... The early optimism was largely an extension of yesterday's rally, supported by a lack of disturbing geopolitical headlines and upbeat comments from the likes of Hewlett-Packard (HPQ 20.72 +0.89) and Applied Materials (AMAT 18.76 -0.09)...

In its advance, the Dow lifted above the psychologically-significant 10K level, as well as its 200-day simple moving average at 10,033, inciting additional buying in the broader market... While leadership to the upside was broad-based with laggards being identified in terms of sectors that are showing the smallest gains, volume was only moderate at best, speaking to participants' lack of conviction to the move higher... In that same vein, the Nasdaq's failure to lift above the top of its recent trading range at 1037 (session high 1036) cooled the market's advance and the participants' enthusiasm even further...

With two hours of trade remaining, selling of S&P futures by a Tier 1 firm drove the market lower, while the relatively uninspiring volume totals and Friday's monthly options expiration exaggerated the extent of the move... At market close, sector leadership was mixed with leaders to the upside including the networking, semiconductor, communications equipment, gold, coal, iron & steel sectors... Among the laggards of note were the biotech and REIT groups... Elsewhere, the bond market was able to close off its worst levels of the day, although the 10-year note was still down 9/32, bringing its yield up to 4.77%... NYSE Adv/Dec 1791/1526, Nasdaq Adv/Dec 1669/1487


Ewww, and check out the new highs and lows

Advances & Declines
NYSE Nasdaq
Advances 1792 (51%) 1669 (50%)
Declines 1523 (44%) 1487 (45%)
Unchanged 142 (4%) 125 (3%)

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Up Vol* 793 (51%) 1023 (56%)
Down Vol* 729 (47%) 756 (41%)
Unch. Vol* 24 (1%) 35 (1%)

----------------------------------------------------------------------

New Hi's 22 42
New Lo's 44 81


Oh well, just another day at the market. May tomorrow will be better.

The DOW'll come up
Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar
That tomorrow
There'll be a sum!

Just thinkin' about
Tomorrow
Clears away the losses,
And the sorrow
'Til there's none!

When it sucks a day
That's gray,
No money,
I just stick out my chin
And Grin,
And Say,
Oh!

The DOW'll come up
Tomorrow
So ya gotta hang on
'Til tomorrow
Come what may
Tomorrow! Tomorrow!
I love ya Tomorrow!
You're always
A buy
A way! :evilgrin:

Put another quarter in and try again!
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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 05:17 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. You should copyright that!
'Cause you know it's going to become the theme song for the stock-whores! You might as well get your cut!

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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 06:30 PM
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32. HA! Maybe I could make a million or so, hey? Check this out on the
Nasdaq - seems that wasn't a true rally like the blather tried to explain it. It seems it was a lot of short covering - AGAIN?!?!

3:53PM Nasdaq gives back day's gains; talk is profit-taking into this morning's short-covering driven rally, exacerbated by lack of liquidity : Trading desks indicating that there is no conviction to step in with bids given continued political uncertainty, as well as lack of visibility into rate picture and economic impact of sharply higher oil prices. Institutions also focusing on the poor historical performance of equities during the summer months, which is leading many accounts shackled to the sidelines.

Hmmmm, didn't we recently have a few articles about the liquidity trap?
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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 07:13 PM
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33. Well, there's some "covering" going on, for sure
Don't know about shorts, it's too cold here. ;-)

I still think the real estate market's going to crash, and take some mortgage companies with it. I'm not in the stock market at all, and my "bond" holdings are really things like my CD and other things that don't actually risk the principal. I know I'll have to get more agressive soon if we're going to retire on anything other than canine cuisine, but I'm waiting for the election before I put any more principal at risk. Learned my lesson in the mid eighties, and, just to reinforce the lesson, in 2001 - when Pukes get in, I get out!

So, right now, a real estate collapse is my main staring at the ceiling instead of sleeping worry. Beats nuc-YOO-lar war, I guess...
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