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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 10:24 AM
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Pentagon's Explanations Add to Confusion
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Congress is demanding answers, but some conflicting testimony from top military and defense officials only has added to the uncertainty.


The examples abound:


_ The Pentagon's top spokesman said Defense Department intelligence chief Stephen Cambone was not involved in discussions of interrogation rules for Iraq. But only days earlier, Cambone testified he, in fact, helped push for those new rules.


_ The general in charge of all U.S. troops in Iraq contradicted the general in charge of the Abu Ghraib prison guards — and an Army investigative report — about who was in command at the lockup after mid-November.


_ A top military lawyer contradicted a defense spokesman and an Army general about whether some interrogation techniques used at the terrorist prison in Guantanamo Bay violate the Geneva Conventions on treatment of prisoners of war.


One area of conflict involves the role played by Cambone, the undersecretary of defense for intelligence.


Cambone testified that he urged Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller, then the commander of the Guantanamo Bay prison camp, to travel to Iraq last August and make recommendations on how to better interrogate prisoners. Cambone said he was involved in Pentagon discussions on how to press detainees for information without violating the Geneva Conventions.

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more: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=542&ncid=542&e=2&u=/ap/20040520/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/iraq_abuse_fact_check
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 10:28 AM
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1. CYA runamuck!!! It's disgusting!!!
No ONE takes responsibility,...meanwhile, it's everyone's fault!!!

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:00 AM
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8. what did the 3 blind mice know about sabrina



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happynewyear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 10:29 AM
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2. it is difficult to sort it all out
Being what is trying to be sorted out is nothing but a pack of lies! Lies, lies, lies and more lies!

Confess you evil *'s!!! :grr:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 10:29 AM
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3. They Are Deliberately Sowing Confusion
This is being done on purpose. Muddy the waters so no one knows what the fuck is going on. The danger in doing this is that they lose track of the lies and soon it just becomes a free for all and the long knives come out.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 10:33 AM
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5. Yeah, and who cares if you lie to congress!
If you lie to congress, that will get you a job at faux news as a correspondent! I am sure that Ollie North is telling these guys exactly what to do.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:10 AM
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9. they will receive pardons if convicted, just like Abrams
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2002/12/10/abrams/index_np.html

And now there's Elliott Abrams, another major Iran-contra villain who was convicted of lying to Congress (this résumé seems to be virtually required for Bush appointees lately), but was saved from iron sorrows by Bush the First, who pardoned him on Christmas Eve. Abrams, in fact, had already been rehabilitated last year, when Bush appointed him to head the National Security Council's democracy, human rights and international operations division. Recently, however, Abrams has been promoted to one of the most crucial jobs in the administration: making NSC policy on the Middle East.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 10:31 AM
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4. Cover up in progress
Reoygs never learn that that actual crime is only made worst by a coverup. The more the Bushies scramble to put different explanations for the torture scandal, the worst it is going to be.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 10:37 AM
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6. It's not hard to figure out, just hard for Repubs to admit
They screwed up, now everyone is lying to get off the hook. Arrest them all, subpoena their documents and emails, and try them for perjury when you spot the lies. We don't have to know what the full truth is to know they are lying. No two Repubs tells the same story twice-- if any of them tell the truth it's completely by accident.

Don't play their game. Just convict them. Give immuity to whoever fingers the President and VP. Then let's move forward and solve the problems these jokes have created.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 10:40 AM
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7. There's only one country that is "confused"
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somewhere between Mexico and Canada I've heard.

The rest of the World is not confused.

We expect these lies.

The US has no "wiggle-room" left.

The World has judged, in their living-rooms and their cafes.

Guilty

What will follow for decades will just be new "evidence" to support that verdict.

That's how I see it anyway.
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