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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:03 PM
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Bush will launch new drive to build support for Iraq policy
Edited on Mon May-24-04 12:12 PM by Skinner
By Jonathan Landay

Knight Ridder Newspapers


WASHINGTON — With a speech on Monday at the U.S. Army War College in Carlisle, Pa., President Bush is scheduled to kick off an intensified drive to reassure Iraqis, Americans and the rest of the world that the occupation will end despite the presence of more than 100,000 U.S. soldiers and a 1,000-strong U.S. embassy.

Continued political chaos, mounting casualties and growing costs in Iraq, however, could erode public, congressional and international support for U.S. policy and spark growing calls for an American withdrawal.


“The United States … is gambling regardless of what it does; if a prolonged military presence threatens to delegitimize the new Iraqi government, a premature and abrupt withdrawal could create a security vacuum encouraging disorder, even civil war,” warns a new study published by the Strategic Studies Institute at the War College, where Bush is to appear Monday.


The report compared the U.S. wars in Vietnam and Iraq and found that “the differences greatly outnumbered the similarities.” Nevertheless, it said, Vietnam holds important lessons for Bush because the United States faces a dilemma in Iraq similar to the one it faced in South Vietnam 40 years ago. No local government is likely to survive without massive American military support, but that support undermines the government’s legitimacy.


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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:05 PM
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1. dream on , smirk face
ITS OVER !!!
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:08 PM
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2. If He Does Plan On Leaving On Time
Then the journalists will be free to circulate and maybe we will hear the TRUTH for a change.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:00 PM
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11. If the place descends into chaos, the journalists will leave....
Woodward addressed this on Charlie Rose last week. If they leave, we won't know what's going on, like what happened with Iran.

Which will be very bad.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:11 PM
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3. The idiot will just make a fool of himself again.
He's only reading what other people write and can't even pronounce the big words. He will only manage to convince many more people that he is an ignorant and insecure fool, posing as a leader. Bush is evil because of his lust for war. I hope one of the generals stands up and tells him to "GO TO HELL!"
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ScrewyRabbit Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:20 PM
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4. Great, his solution for the problems in Iraq is to work
on spin here at home.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:32 PM
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6. and on banning cameras in Iraq.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:29 PM
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5. bush to solve Iraq problems by spinning, campaigning, relaxing at Crawford
like usual. no new action except continued killing (especially at weddings), and more mispronounced words.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:41 PM
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7. he`s going to tell the guys at the war college-what?
he`s a dumb fuck who didn`t have a clue about the war he was going to start and went ahead anyway..now he`s got a plan??? that should go over real well with the guys and gals at the war college,esp when they know he never served and hid out drinking in alabama
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:53 PM
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9. Speeches?
Does anyone here that has heard his speeches believe that
he delievers them with any sincerity? I have stopped listening and watching this shallow dolt because he makes me nauseus.
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:48 PM
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8. the war president talks peace at the war college
what a sad joke.
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wabeewoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 10:56 PM
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10. Apparently he doesn't get
that you have to change the situation not talk about changing it. Besides, once you lose your credibility you can talk until you are blue in the face and it won't change the fact people don't believe you. Remember the story of the monkey with its hand in the cookie jar and it couldn't get it out because it was too full of cookies? But it wouldn't let go of the cookies?? Remind you of another monkey???
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:15 PM
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12. Link & photo
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/world/8740752.htm


President Bush (sic) is seen as he departs TSTC Airport in Waco, Texas. Scrapes and bruises can be seen on the President's face from a fall he sustained while mountain biking on his Crawford ranch. The President was leaving for a celebration in New Haven, Conn., for his daughter Barbara Bush, who is graduating from Yale University. GERALD HERBERT, AP
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 12:57 AM
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13. Oh, for crissake, he fell on his face?
Just look at that picture. How the hell did he manage that? Don't you try to catch yourself so you don't fall on your face? And the crawl on CNN said not to expect any revelations of an exit strategy for Iraq-so what the hell is he going to talk about? How we must be resolute, how we must stay the course, how we no longer can claim any moral high ground, how Iraq is basically the same as it was when Hussein ruled, except they maybe had more electricity? Oh, sorry, I kinda strayed off the point, which is, of course, that God told him to attack Iraq and if we better get with the program or we are all unpatriotic, as well as craven and heathen. I mean, really-what the hell is he going to say tomorrow night? I don't want to hear any bullshit about women being free to go out in the streets now or how the schools are open and any of the other blather that he throws at us. What can he possibly say?
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 06:35 AM
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20. The grace of Jerry Ford, the deceitfulness of ...
Dick Nixon and a talent for ineptitude all his own.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 01:46 AM
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14.  Karen Hughes "book tour" abruptly ended
with the Abu Ghraib story. She is working overtime on tonight's dumya "speech". Heard the networks won't be carrying it, only cable.
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 03:03 AM
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15. Karen Hughes fell off the face of the earth. I thought I was in
heaven. Apparently, she is still around. too bad. I am looking forward to seeing what Bush has to say, I need a laugh. :smoke:
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 03:27 AM
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16. Hopefully America saw the Gen. Zinni interview on 60 Minutes...
....and then watch Dumbya's "reading" of Karen Hughes speech...

Maybe people are going to start waking up?
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 03:39 AM
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17. bush* is responding to opinion polls.....
Bush Speech to Try to Assure Americans on Iraq
Mon May 24, 2004 01:42 AM ET
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=523...

---snip---

The stakes are enormous for Bush, presidential historian Doug Brinkley said. With his public standing "heading into a downward spiral, it is imperative that the president appeal directly to the American public. It's one of those moments historians will look at decades from now," he added.

In Monday's speech, which will be carried live by the cable networks at 8 p.m. EDT (0001 GMT), Bush will outline U.S.-backed plans to establish an interim government that would pave the way for free elections.

Bush is responding to opinion polls and public pressure from fellow Republicans, including Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Richard Lugar of Indiana, who urged the president to provide specific details and not just "generalization."

================

The Other Long Occupation: Bush in a Bubble
By ELISABETH BUMILLER
Published: May 24, 2004
WASHINGTON
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/24/politics/24LETT.html

The Abu Ghraib prison scandal was raging, American soldiers were battling Iraqi insurgents near a Shiite shrine, and the Europeans were arguing with the United States over the powers of a new government in Baghdad.

But on that hot, troubled Washington morning of May 14, when President Bush met in the Roosevelt Room of the White House with foreign ministers from the Group of 8, the world's leading industrialized democracies, he spoke to them for exactly eight minutes, took no questions, then left.

---snip---

Last week, when the president made a rare trip to Capitol Hill to try to soothe Republicans who are anxious over the increasing chaos of the American occupation, he gave them a 35-minute pep talk, shook hands, took no questions, then left.

==========

and tonight he reads smirks and leaves

kinda like that panda joke (eats shoots and leaves)



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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 04:06 AM
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18. Keep digging, Chimpy
That hole you are in is only getting deeper.


"As that’s dawned on more officials in recent months, the administration has begun trying to lower the American profile in Iraq." Yep, sure, like humbly attacking weddings, doing low-key sieges on Karbala and Najaf, and by some playing some pranks on Iraqi people.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 05:47 AM
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19. Expect a whole lot more reality blocking.
Like, "It's only a few dead enders." and at least one "American People/Iraqi People, gotta know blah blah blah." and the ever popular tuff guy talk "I mean what I say blah blah blah."
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:49 AM
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21. Per DU Rules
Please confine excerpts to four paragraphs, and provide a link to the news source for the remainder. Thanks! :)
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:59 AM
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22. if he really wanted to reassure that "the occupation will end"
he would halt the construction of the 14 permanent bases. He'd give half the super-embassy to the Arab League. And the other half to the UN.
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:05 AM
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23. what part of *NO* doesn't he understand ?....
This entire mess is *'s fault.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:47 AM
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24. Speech will not be televised by the networks
Not even Faux is going to show it.
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 11:35 AM
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25. The newspaper lede from hell (if you're GWB or KR)
Edited on Mon May-24-04 11:35 AM by markus
From the AP story currenlty up on Yahoo:

"...President Bush tries to reassure voters Monday that hundreds of Americans have not died in vain..."

I suspect that somebody have breakfast with Karl Rove this morning probably has Karl's coffee all over the shirt.

In the death of one thousand cuts, that's line is a seemingly small one that is liable to fester and erupt.

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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 11:41 AM
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26. and we are to think he will appear as the war president six times before
June 30?

I have read that creating chaos is a Straussian concept.

I don't think that Strauss guy understood the American personna, bad as it can be at times.

In my babyhood political awareness as a late bloomer, it seems to me thus:

Kerry may be holding back in offering a solution to the debacle in Iraq until he gets a definitive , committed action from Bush which he may or may not reveal in tonight's speech. Now Bush, scared to death of Kerry, decides that after Kerry might have something to say after the first speech, he, Bush, will reserve five more speeches so he can change things around to take credit for Kerry's ideas.
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