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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:19 PM
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'I will always hate you people'
'I will always hate you people'

Family's fury at mystery death

Luke Harding in Baghdad
Monday May 24, 2004
The Guardian

The first Mohammed Munim al-Izmerly's family knew of his death was when his battered corpse turned up at Baghdad's morgue. Attached to the zipped-up black US body bag was a laconic note.
The US military claimed in the note that Dr Izmerly, a distinguished chemistry professor arrested after US tanks encircled his villa, had died of "brainstem compression".

Dr Izmerly's sudden death after 10 months in American custody left his family stunned, not least because three weeks earlier they had visited him in the US prison at Baghdad airport. His 23-year-old daughter, Rana, recalled that he had seemed in "good health".

The family commissioned an independent Iraqi autopsy. Its conclusion was unambiguous: Dr Izmerly had died because of a "sudden hit to the back of his head", Faik Amin Baker, the director of Baghdad hospital's forensic department, certified.

The cause of death was blunt trauma. It was uncertain exactly how he died, but someone had hit him from behind, possibly with a bar or a pistol, Dr Baker confirmed yesterday.

rest at....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1223358,00.html
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IthinkThereforeIAM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:30 PM
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1. There too...

... just how many "prisons" do we have in Iraq/Kuwait?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 12:46 PM
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25. THERE ARE NO RAPE ROOMS IN IRAQ--- THE CHIMPANZEE



"The Iraqi people are now free. And they do not have to worry about the secret police coming
after them in the middle of the night, and they don't have to worry about their husbands and
brothers being taken off and shot, or their wives being taken to rape rooms. Those days are
over."——Paul Bremer, Administrator, Coalition Provisional Authority, Sept. 2, 2003

"Iraq is free of rape rooms and torture chambers."——President Bush, remarks to 2003
Republican National Committee Presidential Gala, Oct. 8, 2003

“One thing is for certain: There won't be any more mass graves and torture rooms and rape
rooms."——Bush, press availability in Monterrey, Mexico. Jan. 12, 2004
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:33 PM
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2. i just read this a few minutes ago
...jesus christ! these people are fucking insane...murdering the intelligentsia of iraq....fucking insane
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:48 PM
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7. If he was a chemist
he could only have been working on Saddam's WMD programs. They probably had to kill him as punishment for not spilling the beans about the WMDs. <heavy sarcasm>


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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 11:14 AM
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21. MURDERED BY US SOLDIER WAR CRIMINALS
More and more a dark Curtain is eclipsing the truth.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 12:40 PM
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24. The Dark Totalitarian Curtain is encompassing us all
Can we even stop it at this point?

Stay tuned.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:27 AM
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30. It will be hard
It can be done
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:38 PM
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3. Killed for the sake of Bush/Cheney WMD lies!
Edited on Sun May-23-04 11:41 PM by TahitiNut
These are nothing but political killings! They have nothing to do with any purported threat these people pose whatsoever. They are tortured and killed in an obsessive program to harvest anything at all to rationalize the lies about WMDs!

This has no strategic, tactical, or public safety value whatsoever! Even if we were to assume there was any truth at all to any of the "WMD evidence," it relates solely to the initial rationalization for an illegal invasion and preemptive war and bears no relationship to the current hypocritical bullshit of "democratization"!

Why else is "a distinguished chemistry professor" detained and killed???

This is a War Crime! These are violations of Human Rights solely for the partisan political interests of the Busholini regime.
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:49 PM
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8. exactly
killed for propoganda, and not just any pro-US message, but partisan bullshit. It's despicable.

"You're doing a superb job. You are a strong secretary of defense, and our nation owes you a debt of gratitude."

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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:39 PM
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4. How awful!
My God, is there no decency left? This is murder with no accountabity??? These prisons are awful!
:kick:
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:40 PM
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5. Sad. So very sad.
nt
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Lou_C Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:47 PM
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6. They have to be held accountable for what they have done
We have murderers coming back to the US with blood on their hands and if they aren't held accountable they will keep doing it over and over again.
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Arbustosux Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:54 PM
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9. I thought that was a Rush Limbaugh quote
sounds like him
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:58 PM
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10. Thank you, Junior and Rummy.
We have all now entered the Twilight Zone.

:crazy:
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:59 PM
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11. And Mrs. Izmerly offered
the troops hospitality, tea and cookies ....
Under Bu$h, Americans are becoming the barbarians, not only the killings but the destruction and looting of Iraq's past .... The Tigris and the Euphartes, Mesopotamia, the Cradle of Civilization.
Barbarians are not usually welcomed with flowers and sweets.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 12:15 AM
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12. All the wealthy corporations who fund Bush from their clean and tidy
Edited on Mon May-24-04 12:20 AM by Dover
offices without a thought to the blood they too have on their hands, should also be arrested for hiring these killers to do their dirty work. You can be sure that IF their corporate sponsors voiced their disgust and disapproval of Bushco's methods things would change. But no...they are far more interested in their profits and maintaining their controls.
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IthinkThereforeIAM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 12:48 AM
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14. My sentiments exactly...

... I have stated the same thing in the past. All those that funded the Bush family "political careers" should be brought in on RICO charges.
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FleshCartoon Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 12:32 AM
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13. I have no words to describe my repulsion...
...and cannot believe that with all the publicity they're getting over this torture and homicide that they continue to do it.

Does this fucking administration not see that the gig is up for them and to continue in their insane actions is merely psychopathic?

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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 01:08 AM
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15. I think they are trying to numb us to their barbarism
so that, eventually, they can do the same here without any fear real protest from the people. It's become very easy to see how the Nazis came into power.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 01:10 AM
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16. We're creating thousands of Ranas
folks who want to seek revenge...I can't condone it but I certainly understand...
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 01:22 AM
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17. They hate us for our freedoms
Edited on Mon May-24-04 01:29 AM by 0rganism
Our freedom to bomb them in the name of safety.

Our freedom to invade their country in the name of liberation.

Our freedom to arrest whomever we damn well please and torture them in prison in the name of security.

Our freedom to slaughter them like livestock in the name of human rights.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 11:57 AM
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22. Our freedom to SODOMIZE their ANUSES with FLASHLIGHT HANDLES
Some clown must really have attained AROUSAL by doing that!!!!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 01:27 AM
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18. Under new management (n/t)
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 02:09 AM
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19. a brilliant mind
rendered useless by some damn fool
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 02:24 AM
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20. He was kept in prison over 6 months.
At some point they probably recognized they weren't going to get anything useful from him and they simply whacked him. No reason to let him go back to his home.

I wonder what it was they meant when they told his wife he was a "witness?" Probably meant a witness to their depravity.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 12:10 PM
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23. the Bush Regime will interpret this to mean
that they must kill and pacify the entire population of Iraq - to cover-up their crimes

But there also was the legacy of emotion - of a kind now common across Iraq, and swelling into a storm. "I won't allow myself to rest until I have got revenge for him," Rana said.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:19 PM
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26. Another generation of terrorist is created.
It's no wonder that so much of the world hates the US. When you've screwed many countries for korporate amerika's benefit, it's suprising there aren't more terrorist attacks in this place.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:28 PM
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27. THIS PICTURE WAS ALL OVER EUROPE THIS WEEK-END
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:56 PM
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28. "terrorist"?
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 11:41 PM
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29. People who wish to avenge
the blood bath in their country. But that will mean those that wish to exact their pound of flesh against the US will resort to acts of violence against us.
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