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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:06 PM
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Bryant's lawyers suggest bias in investigation
EAGLE, Colo. - NBA star Kobe Bryant’s defense team labels investigation ’woeful’ in rape trial

A defense lawyer asked a judge Monday to approve expert witnesses he said will show that the investigation of rape charges against Kobe Bryant was shoddy enough to suggest bias against the NBA star.

Bryant attorney Hal Haddon said in court papers he wants to call two experts to testify that the work of sheriff’s detectives Doug Winters and Dan Loya was incomplete.

Haddon said the men “closed their eyes” to potential physical evidence at the site of the alleged crime that might have confirmed Bryant’s innocence.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5054323/
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:08 PM
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1. nahhh...
couldn't be, not in America....
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:10 PM
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2. Kobe's lawyers are going to make this so expensive for this county to...
...prosecute (with all these motions) that municipalities in the future will think twice about charging rich peope with crimes.

And we'll have two criminal justice systems -- one for rich people and one for poor people. Oh wait. We already do.
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 11:04 PM
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3. Interesting that Bryant has made noises about leaving the Lakers
and one of the teams frequently mentioned in the media is Denver. Forgive me for being cynical, but it seems this might just be a carrot to dangle in front of the jury, i.e. "Acquit me and I might just come and play for you."
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:51 AM
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4. "Acquit me and I might just come and play for you"
do you honestly think basketball fans will end up in the jury?
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 12:20 PM
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5. In a court of law ...............
Well it don't matter. See how this fits you, I heard on the radio that they have found evidence of DNA of another man on inside the alleged victim from the tests. I don't know the ramifications totally, but it sounds like a bombshell for the accused

(sex with someone else after she was ?)

Not in this article here, but it just came out this morning.

http://www.thebakersfieldchannel.com/news/3352622/detail.html

Bryant Attorneys Accuse Police Of 'Woeful' Investigation
Judge Could Set Trial Date At Thursday's Hearing; Defense Wants O.J. Witness

POSTED: 11:19 am EDT May 27, 2004
UPDATED: 12:29 pm EDT May 27, 2004
EAGLE, Colo. -- Kobe Bryant is due back in a Colorado courtroom Thursday, where a judge could set a trial date.
(snip)

Btw. I think this thing is rather racist and a set up. If Kobe was some white dude they would of thrown this whole thing out a long time ago.
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 12:51 PM
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6. if true it means that she lied to the cops
because she said that she didn't have sex with anyone else (during that time). Also, do rape victims usually go and have sex hours after being raped?
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LagaLover Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 01:04 PM
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7. Nope, they don't
In my heart of hearts, I know Kobi is innocent.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 01:04 PM
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 01:09 PM
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9. Not to mention going to a party and bragging about
Kobe's anatomy to friends.

That doesn't sound consistent with how a rape victim would act.

America has GOT to get over the taboo attitude of interracial consentual sex.

If rape happened, then prosecute the hell out of the bastard, but if consentual sex happens between a young black man and a young white woman, then PLEASE (parents of the white woman) quit calling it rape.

That's so 19th century.
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 01:31 PM
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10. taboo attitude of interracial consentual sex
more like the taboo attitude of consentual sex between a rich /famous guy and a average woman. Being black and a athlete is just a bonus for the trial.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 01:44 PM
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11. When the prosecution wants to suppress evidence it make me suspicious
There have been a lot of weird things to go on with this whole thing.

Some people get so stuck in denial that they refuse to see the truth.

The denial story I have from just a couple days ago. My daughter got brave pushed away one of her Friends (hopefully for both their own good) Her (ex)Friend is a freshman in high school and her family is really strict with her (evangelicals). The daughter was fooling around (sex) with some boy (a junior at her school) secretly. My daughter told the girls younger sister so the parents could find out (underhanded, I don't know why that way). The girls parents came over to our house ranting and raving to my wife(I tried to stay out of it and I left them to discuss by them selves and her, too embarrassing).
They was such denial from her parents and her it was unbelievable (of course my wife still had to tell me all about it anyway).

My wife just tried to help them out or whatever. She told them to take their daughter to the Gynecologist, have her checked out, and seriously think about getting her some oral contraceptives. I hope someone gets a clue sometime. They live down the street and still seem kind of pissed off at us (shoot the messenger). The girls parents are trying to shove ideas down the girls throat that she don't understand and wants to rebel against. She tried to runaway a while back so the put her in therapy / counseling with a physiologist.

The sex thing seems like a way to get back at people or get attention to me in some cases. That is just one more reason I am suspicious
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 01:45 PM
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12. when in doubt just lock the guy up
n/t
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 02:13 PM
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13. They call it BAIL ( is also part of the larger prison industry)
Things are so messed up, My father-in-law works as an officer for a county jail, he tells us of all kinds of fun stories ;-)



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lynx rufus Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 02:42 PM
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14. He is a pea-brained pig at best and a rapest at worst.
He gets no sympathy from me. None at all.
Looks to me like he had a decent marriage, fame, fortune
and - perhaps most importantly - the adulation of black youth.
He was a role model to millions.
Turns out he is a pea-brained pig at best and a rapest at worst.


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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 03:00 PM
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15. so, if she lied about it, it's OK to be accused falsely of rape
becuase "he had a decent marriage, fame, fortune"....Is it the same for a poor person, or do they get your sympathy?

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