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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 10:58 AM
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Lufkin dad charged with murder in deaths of stillborn twins
May 27, 2004, 9:03AM
Lufkin dad charged with murder in deaths of stillborn twins
Associated Press
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/topstory/2595050


LUFKIN - An East Texas man has been indicted on murder charges after his girlfriend delivered twin sons stillborn following an alleged beating from him.

*SNIP*

The case against the 18-year-old Lufkin High School student is believed to be the first to be prosecuted under a new state law concerning the deaths of a fetus.

The case began May 7 when Flores allegedly hit his 16-year-old girlfriend in the abdomen, according to a police affidavit. The affidavit said the girl was five months' pregnant at the time. The affidavit says she delivered the boys dead at home early the next morning.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:05 AM
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1. If you've never spent any time in East Texas
You're missing out on a freakish experience. The deeper into the woods you get, the weirder your surroundings become. I spent an inordinate amount of time there in my youth. I remember being in a Piggly-Wiggly in Hemphill near the TX-LA border and seeing this bizarre looking boy with a Kool-Aid moustache and some kind of back problem where his body was bent like a banana, reading comic books. The kid was like albino-ish white, with yellow hair. Banana Boy has always been my sort of measure for East Texas - West Louisiana weirdness. He's never been topped.

Lufkin is a weird place.
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LoneStarLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:10 AM
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2. The Piney Woods
Yep, the Piney Woods are a region all unto their own.

Who says you can't get all "Deliverance" creeped-out anywhere outside of the Appalachians? Try having to walk 6 miles to a gas station down a road in East Texas some humid summer evening.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:13 AM
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3. I recently saw "Deliverance" for the first time
I am still disturbed!
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:18 AM
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5. My grandparents OWNED a gas station in the Piney Woods
I spent a summer there once. I kept waiting to see Ned Beatty run out from behind a tree in his briefs.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:35 AM
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7. been there too
was at a grocery store with trailer park Mama checking out in front of me -- she was about 300 lbs, wearing cut off jeans, polyester tube top, tits (and navel) pointing to hell, 3 inch roots in her bottle dinghey blonde, and covered in freckles. She had a daughter with her who was a taller thinner version of her whose tube top kept slipping down because the elastic wasn't, and a young morbidly rollypolly boy wearing nothing but overalls and covered in freckles too. He was holding 2 large bags of chips and a box of Oreos and a couple of candy bars, and when he smiled, it turned out he had freckles on his teeth too. He abruptly threw the junk food onto the checkout belt grabbed his Momma and said, "Momma I jes' crap my drawers I need the car key" and waddled out as fast as he could.

Yes, with life like this who needs fiction.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:17 AM
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4. he'd have to have run over her abdomen
with a pickup truck to have done the deed. Since the greatest cause of death for pregnant women is murder by the fathers of their children, and since most die pregnant. I sincerly doubt they're going to be able to make a case that stillborn twins were a result of an "average" beating that a woman survived.

The girlfriedn said he "might" have hit her in the "stomach." I remember the original news story.

Yeah, he's scum, like all men who beat women. Throw him in jail for THAT.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:27 AM
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6. ah but she has been reduced to an incubator...so who cares
if he beats her....its all about the fetus

but I must say that if she was pregnant with twins the pregnancy elevates in risk...so a beating could result in miscarriage.

I also think that this kind of law will be abused...imagine when the obnoxious overbearing blowhard kinda of guy berates his wife over dinner...and she miscarries....wonder if he could go to jail for it???

(by the way I am not picking on all men...men like my sweetie wouldn't even think to hit anyone or treat them poorly)
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:37 AM
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8. Forests
attract shady characters, I think.

I live in the Piney Woods. The people here are not all that educated, to be sure, and they prove it by their continual breast-beatin', Gawd-fearin' support of all things Bush.

In fact, some of the Baptist preachers in this region believe Bush to be the "new, improved Son of God" wreaking vengeance where the original only counseled "love your enemies" and "resist evil with good." What a wimp!

I will say this in favor of this benighted area of Texas, which is already a pretty benighted place overall. At least there IS shade to take refuge in, even if it does spawn shady characters.

And, believe it or not, I was not a self-hating East Texan until the Bush Crime Family (faux Texans who moved here from New England after WWII) reinforced everything negative about the region and state and negated everything positive by taking over the levers of political power over the last 15 years or so. Since that time, they have appealed to "the worst demons of our nature" to turn Lincoln's saying upside-down.

I will say this again. You Americans outside Texas (and the South in general) missed a golden opportunity to secure peace and prosperity for yourselves and your posterity by fighting to keep them in the Union in 1861.

Yep, you "preserved" the Union all right. Preserved it for Armageddon 140 years later. It would have been so much easier to just let us go. Alas, hindsight is 20-20.
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