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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 11:48 AM
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Boy Pronounced Dead Discovered Alive During Funeral Home Prep
Boy Pronounced Dead Discovered Alive During Funeral Home Prep

POSTED: 12:31 pm EDT May 28, 2004

BOISE, Idaho -- A hospital worker preparing a drowned 2-year-old for a funeral home noticed the boy was breathing -- more than an hour after he had been pronounced dead.

Logan Pinto apparently wandered away from his baby sitter Thursday and fell into a canal near his home in Rexburg, about 275 miles east of Boise. He was submerged for nearly 30 minutes before police found him a half-mile downstream, said Rexburg police Capt. Randy Lewis.

Though an officer gave him CPR and emergency workers did everything they could to revive him, Lewis said, the boy was pronounced dead when it appeared the effort had failed. After giving the boy's mother and stepfather -- Debra and Joe Gould -- some time to say goodbye, Madison Memorial Hospital nurse Mary Zollinger began to prepare Logan's body for the funeral home.

But when she looked at the boy, she noticed his chest was slightly moving and realized that Logan was alive.

more... http://www.thekcrachannel.com/news/3357628/detail.html
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 11:55 AM
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1. There is only one priority for a baby sitter.
Right?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 12:33 PM
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10. yeah, she should never go to the bathroom
or answer a doorbell, or sneeze, or turn her head toward a sudden noise.

Toddlers can move like lightning. Sometimes they move in the wrong direction, and when you locate them, they've found something deadly.

Unless you're willing to tie them with a leash or keep them behind bars, some of them will run into trouble.

I'm just glad, for everyone's sake, that the kid is still alive.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 02:37 PM
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22. Mine moves like lightning, but not often..so when you least expect it..
he triples his speed, runs much faster than you think he can.

Neglect / negligence are a wide swath of grey when it comes to watching children.

Maybe the babysitter was guilty as he** of neglect or maybe the toddler was just very fast and got away in a few seconds.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 11:57 AM
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2. That is a great story
but I doubt the ending will be real happy. I'm thinking a brain deprived of oxygen for as long as the little guy's must have been at some point in the ordeal will lead to some heavy disabilities. But, at least the parents still have him.
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 12:00 PM
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4. Awwww,
don't say that. Let's hope he will be healthy and go on to live a long life.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 12:05 PM
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5. I know, sorry I have the misfortune to work in an agency
that sees that sort of thing often. In one example we had a brave young man save a tot who had fallen in a river. It was to great risk to himself. He has been given many awards - rightfully. Regrettably, the saved child has no quality of life and can never expect improvement. A sad reality.
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axollot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 03:37 PM
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24. but this story seems different
..at least to me. I mean it sounds like something you would see on a PAX television show miracles. LOL

I could not imagine what that must have been like for the parents. He was already at the funeral home for petes sake!

Lets hope he doesn't end up brain damaged. Little guy seems to have the fight to live to much to end up like that.
IMHO :D
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 12:38 PM
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12. Very cold water can help the outcome - slows metabolism
At least that is what I have read, but you may have experience to go on as well, that would lead you to be less optimistic. We get this in Canada every now and then (drowning or hypothermia) and it seems like people who are very chilled have less brain damage.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 01:12 PM
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13. I am, of course, not hoping a poor outcome
on the child. I'm just saying that potential for a "normal" (whatever that is) life hereafter would seem to be low.

I've heard that the very cold water can slow body operations to the absolute necessary for survival. It would e nice if that were the case here. Not sure what the weather was in Louisiana the other day. :shrug:
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 01:52 PM
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17. It was in Idaho, not Louisiana.
So it may have been very cold water.

But, I know what you're saying lunabush and agree.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 02:24 PM
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19. Boise Louisaina
sorry, what an idiot I is - :sheepish:

Here's hoping it was cold enough.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 02:21 PM
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18. I didn't mean to sound critical of you
I didn't think you were hoping for a less optimistic outcome, but I thought perhaps clinical experience may have made you wary of overly optimistic press reports of events like this. And, as another poster mentioned, the water might have been very cold in Idaho in May, between its relatively northern location and high altitude.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 02:26 PM
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20. not a worry
and I am glad to be corrected that it was Idaho, not Louisiana. Not sure what I thought I read.

btw - didn't think you were critical. :hi: I hated to be a doomsayer, more than anything my heart breaks for those parents - horrible loss, fantastic relief, then realization. :(
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 11:59 AM
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3. I sincerely hope that the child managed to escape brain damage as
well as death...
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 12:09 PM
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6. terrible medical process
so if I understand this correctly, the child was not verified deceased except by gross inspection. Then the child's warm body was taken to the funeral home for immediate preservation. What's wrong with that process, anyone? That's why we have coroners, except that one should not keep his/her job. Worse, if the child had been placed into refrigeration before embalming, he would then have died of hypothermia.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 12:23 PM
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7. Did you read the link?
Edited on Fri May-28-04 12:25 PM by OKNancy
the prep was at the hospital. They clean them up, take out tubes, etc.

Fron the article:
Though an officer gave him CPR and emergency workers did everything they could to revive him, Lewis said, the boy was pronounced dead when it appeared the effort had failed. After giving the boy's mother and stepfather -- Debra and Joe Gould -- some time to say goodbye, Madison Memorial Hospital nurse Mary Zollinger began to prepare Logan's body for the funeral home.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 12:33 PM
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9. they're also
supposed to run a pulse oximeter and other scans. it's not a miracle, it's incompetence.
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JackDragna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 12:28 PM
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8. AHHH! THE DEAD ARE WALKING! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!
nt
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 12:35 PM
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11. Same thing happened in Anaheim last year.
Mackalaya Jackson, 2 years old--identical situation where hospital declared her dead, and a worker saw her struggle to breathe a few hours later. As far as I know, she's still on life support in a vegetative state. :-(
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kevinhnc Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 01:36 PM
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14. There is a medical saying...
You're not really dead...until you're WARM and dead.

His doctors should have known better.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 01:46 PM
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15. well, the parents too
I mean, you'd think if they were spending their last moments with their presumably dead son, they'd notice his chest moving up and down.
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 01:48 PM
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16. oops!
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 02:26 PM
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21. That's a frightening thought...
Let's hope they're more careful over there.
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 02:40 PM
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23. talk about overjoyed
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